From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58396 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: shy group bug in XEmacs 21.4 Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 00:17:19 +0900 Organization: The XEmacs Project Sender: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Message-ID: <878ybr4c1s.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1094224968 24168 80.91.224.253 (3 Sep 2004 15:22:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Fri Sep 03 17:22:36 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C3Ftb-0007Pj-00 for ; Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:22:35 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i83FHIxH001342; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:17:19 -0400 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i83FHGpe001333 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i83FHGFN001332 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i83FHErT001316 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i83FHEYb001314 for xemacweb@tux.org; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (mail@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i83FHDLa001303 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1C3FoV-0003gT-00; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 00:17:19 +0900 Original-To: Katsumi Yamaoka In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Fri, 03 Sep 2004 19:37:29 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.5 (chayote, linux) Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: localhost is always allowed.) Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: localhost is always allowed.) Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: localhost is always allowed.) Received-SPF: none (gwyn.tux.org: domain of turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:15937 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58396 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58396 >>>>> "KY" == Katsumi Yamaoka writes: KY> If anything, I don't feel like degenerating them. Because KY> using `shy group' is hopeful to improve the performance. IIRC, shy groups by themselves make negligible difference to XEmacs's regexps. I think the improvement in clarity and flexibility of subexpressions is well worth it though. KY> Isn't there a chance of fixing XEmacs 21.4? It depends on exactly what code needs to be changed, although Vin S. has final say either way. Do you have any idea where the bug is? It's been a while since I looked at regexp.c. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.