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Jouni K Seppanen <jkseppan@james.hut.fi> writes:

| Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes:
| > I think you can enter the server buffer (^ from the group buffer),
| > then close and then open the server in question.  This should be
| > automatic, though.
|=20
| I think it's deliberately not automatic: when a server is apparently
| down, Gnus marks it "denied" until you decide to attempt to reconnect.
| Otherwise, you might get seriously bored waiting for the network
| timeout for each group. (See the "Unavailable Servers" Info entry.)

Right, I did look at it, but what I was wondering is that since it
got the article sent, it obviously got the connection established
somehow (why and how if I'm supposed to reopen it manually?), why
did it still complain to me about denied server (is the article
sending mechanism conflicting with the rest of the system that
relies on manual de-denying of the server?) and why couldn't it
keep it established.

--=20
Hannu