pgnus-0.85 and mail

pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Hrvoje Niksic]

WARNING WARNING!!!

I've just tried receiving new mail with Pterodactyl 0.85, and it
didn't work out.  The mail is saved to the appropriate (nnml) files,
but I don't see it in my summaries.  I'll try to regenerate NOV
databases now.

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Karl Kleinpaste]

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
> I've just tried receiving new mail with Pterodactyl 0.85, and it
> didn't work out.  The mail is saved to the appropriate (nnml) files,
> but I don't see it in my summaries.

Curious.  I picked p0.85 as soon as it was announced, and have been
getting mail with it via a "((file))" setting without incident.
Overviews are sane; summaries are consistent.

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Hrvoje Niksic]

Karl Kleinpaste <karl@justresearch.com> writes:

> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
> > I've just tried receiving new mail with Pterodactyl 0.85, and it
> > didn't work out.  The mail is saved to the appropriate (nnml) files,
> > but I don't see it in my summaries.
> 
> Curious.  I picked p0.85 as soon as it was announced, and have been
> getting mail with it via a "((file))" setting without incident.
> Overviews are sane; summaries are consistent.

I've now checked it again in a more limited environment, in case it's
a spur-of-the-moment thing.  But no; pgnus-0.85 still doesn't get mail
for me.

What happens is that the mail gets saved to the appropriate group, but 
the .overview file and active file don't get updated, which results in 
new mail being virtually invisible from Gnus.  Regenerating the nov
database fixes the problem.

I don't know what causes the problem.  It might be something specific
to my environment, but it is at least repeatable.  I've now reverted
to 0.84.

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Jørgen Wahlberg]

[ Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> ]

|  I've now checked it again in a more limited environment, in case it's
|  a spur-of-the-moment thing.  But no; pgnus-0.85 still doesn't get mail
|  for me.
|  
|  What happens is that the mail gets saved to the appropriate group, but 
|  the .overview file and active file don't get updated, which results in 
|  new mail being virtually invisible from Gnus.  Regenerating the nov
|  database fixes the problem.
|  
|  I don't know what causes the problem.  It might be something specific
|  to my environment, but it is at least repeatable.  I've now reverted
|  to 0.84.

Well, it happens to me as well.  I didn't try 0.85, but 0.87 loses
mail.  At least .overview files are not updated.

Had to downgrade to 0.84 and do a M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases to
make new mail appear.

Using linux (rh6) and emacs 20.3.1.

 - jørgen

-- 
Jørgen Wahlberg <jw@nimrod.no>

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jw@nimrod.no (Jørgen Wahlberg) writes:

> Well, it happens to me as well.  I didn't try 0.85, but 0.87 loses
> mail.  At least .overview files are not updated.

What is your and Hrvoje's nnmail-spool-file and mail-sources
variables?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Jørgen Wahlberg]

[ Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> ]

|  jw@nimrod.no (Jørgen Wahlberg) writes:
|  
|  > Well, it happens to me as well.  I didn't try 0.85, but 0.87 loses
|  > mail.  At least .overview files are not updated.
|  
|  What is your and Hrvoje's nnmail-spool-file and mail-sources
|  variables?

nnmail-spool-file's value is 
((file)
 (pop :server "post.venstre.no" :user "jorgenw" :password "xx"))

mail-sources's value is 
nil


 - jørgen

-- 
Jørgen Wahlberg <jw@nimrod.no>

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jw@nimrod.no (Jørgen Wahlberg) writes:

> nnmail-spool-file's value is 
> ((file)
>  (pop :server "post.venstre.no" :user "jorgenw" :password "xx"))

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

>     `nnmail-spool-file' is a variable declared in Lisp.
>       -- loaded from "nnmail"
> 
>     Value: ("/var/spool/mail/hniksic" "~/Mail/incoming")

Ok; I can now guess what's going on.

In nnmail-get-new-mail there's a clause

      ;; If we did indeed read any incoming spools, we save all info.
      (unless (zerop new)
        ....

I'm guessing that `new' is zero, so the info isn't saved.  But why is
`new' zero?  Can you edebug through that function, see which of the
...

Stop press!

It should check `total' and not `new'.  Fix in Pterodactyl Gnus v0.88.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Hrvoje Niksic]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> It should check `total' and not `new'.  Fix in Pterodactyl Gnus
> v0.88.

Yay!

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Hrvoje Niksic]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> jw@nimrod.no (Jørgen Wahlberg) writes:
> 
> > Well, it happens to me as well.  I didn't try 0.85, but 0.87 loses
> > mail.  At least .overview files are not updated.
> 
> What is your and Hrvoje's nnmail-spool-file and mail-sources
> variables?

    `nnmail-spool-file' is a variable declared in Lisp.
      -- loaded from "nnmail"

    Value: ("/var/spool/mail/hniksic" "~/Mail/incoming")

    `mail-sources' is a variable declared in Lisp.
      -- loaded from "mail-source"

    Value: nil

Is this not right?

Re: pgnus-0.85 and mail

[Hans de Graaff]

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

> I've just tried receiving new mail with Pterodactyl 0.85, and it
> didn't work out.  The mail is saved to the appropriate (nnml) files,
> but I don't see it in my summaries.  I'll try to regenerate NOV
> databases now.

I didn't have any problems with picking up mail either, from qmail
Maildir into nnml groups.

Hans