* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-08 19:53 Encoding Γειά σας Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-09-08 15:46 ` Michael Harnois
1998-09-10 0:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-09-09 9:07 ` Stephen Zander
1998-09-11 16:20 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
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From: Michael Harnois @ 1998-09-08 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> Most of the iso-8859-* charsets are encoded with the Q encoding (as in
> this article). This obviously makes sense for *-1 and *-2, but does
> it makes sense for them all? The text above encodes all characters,
> and that would surely be more efficiently done using the B encoding...
This subject line appears correctly in this reply, and in the article
buffer. However, in the message buffer, it appears as
E [ 10: Lars Magne Ingebrigt] Encoding ~~~~ ~~~
This is not desirable.
--
Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA
mharnois@sbt.net aa0bt@aa0bt.ampr.org
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions,
they don't have to worry about the answers."
-- Thomas Pynchon
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* Encoding Γειά σας
@ 1998-09-08 19:53 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-09-08 15:46 ` Michael Harnois
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-09-08 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Most of the iso-8859-* charsets are encoded with the Q encoding (as in
this article). This obviously makes sense for *-1 and *-2, but does
it makes sense for them all? The text above encodes all characters,
and that would surely be more efficiently done using the B encoding...
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-08 19:53 Encoding Γειά σας Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-09-08 15:46 ` Michael Harnois
@ 1998-09-09 9:07 ` Stephen Zander
1998-09-09 17:07 ` Stephen Zander
1998-09-11 16:20 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Zander @ 1998-09-09 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
Lars> Most of the iso-8859-* charsets are encoded with the Q
Lars> encoding (as in this article). This obviously makes sense
Lars> for *-1 and *-2, but does it makes sense for them all? The
Lars> text above encodes all characters, and that would surely be
Lars> more efficiently done using the B encoding...
Did you mean for something in this article to be charset
greek-iso8859-7? I checked the headers which suggest you sent it as
us-ascii, so I'm a little confused.
Xemacs 20.4 (Mule), both pnus-0.15 & pgnus-0.22 display this behaviour.
--
Stephen
---
Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
"20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-10 0:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-09-09 15:03 ` Michael Harnois
1998-09-10 1:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Michael Harnois @ 1998-09-09 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> What do you mean by "correctly", by the way? As Greek letters?
Yup.
--
Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA
mharnois@sbt.net aa0bt@aa0bt.ampr.org
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions,
they don't have to worry about the answers."
-- Thomas Pynchon
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-10 1:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-09-09 16:28 ` Michael Harnois
1998-09-10 4:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Michael Harnois @ 1998-09-09 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Hm. I get greek letters in all the buffers -- summary, article and
> message. Do you run a muletilated XEmacs?
I do indeed.
--
Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA
mharnois@sbt.net aa0bt@aa0bt.ampr.org
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions,
they don't have to worry about the answers."
-- Thomas Pynchon
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-09 9:07 ` Stephen Zander
@ 1998-09-09 17:07 ` Stephen Zander
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From: Stephen Zander @ 1998-09-09 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, ding
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <gibreel@pobox.com> writes:
Stephen> Did you mean for something in this article to be charset
Stephen> greek-iso8859-7? I checked the headers which suggest you
Stephen> sent it as us-ascii, so I'm a little confused.
Please ignore the man behind the keyboard. He's an idiot.
What I get for only reading the ding m/l with a Mule enabled xemacs.
--
Stephen
---
Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least
20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a
"20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month"
group. :) -- Randal Schwartz
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-08 15:46 ` Michael Harnois
@ 1998-09-10 0:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-09-09 15:03 ` Michael Harnois
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-09-10 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
Michael Harnois <mharnois@sbt.net> writes:
> This subject line appears correctly in this reply, and in the article
> buffer. However, in the message buffer, it appears as
>
> E [ 10: Lars Magne Ingebrigt] Encoding ~~~~ ~~~
Huh. Hm. I can't seem to get it so display thusly...
What do you mean by "correctly", by the way? As Greek letters?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-09 15:03 ` Michael Harnois
@ 1998-09-10 1:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-09-09 16:28 ` Michael Harnois
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-09-10 1:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Michael Harnois <mharnois@sbt.net> writes:
> > What do you mean by "correctly", by the way? As Greek letters?
>
> Yup.
Hm. I get greek letters in all the buffers -- summary, article and
message. Do you run a muletilated XEmacs?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-09 16:28 ` Michael Harnois
@ 1998-09-10 4:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-09-10 4:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Michael Harnois <mharnois@sbt.net> writes:
> > Hm. I get greek letters in all the buffers -- summary, article and
> > message. Do you run a muletilated XEmacs?
>
> I do indeed.
Do you see anything that's different about the former buffer from the
two other buffers that can explain why the Greek characters aren't
displayed in that buffer?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-08 19:53 Encoding Γειά σας Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-09-08 15:46 ` Michael Harnois
1998-09-09 9:07 ` Stephen Zander
@ 1998-09-11 16:20 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
1998-09-12 2:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-09-11 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:
> The text above encodes all characters,
> and that would surely be more efficiently done using the B encoding...
I wonder how many news/mail agents have implemented QP but not base64?
--
Hallvard
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-12 2:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-09-11 20:02 ` François Pinard
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: François Pinard @ 1998-09-11 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Hallvard B Furuseth <h.b.furuseth@usit.uio.no> writes:
> > I wonder how many news/mail agents have implemented QP but not base64?
> I know there were a few in the past, but I would guess that more
> recent news/mail agents implement both.
Another mistake of the first days was to give no support to 8bit. I guess,
or at least hope, that this has been corrected everywhere now. Bad or
incomplete MIME implementations surely contributed in making MIME more
horrible than it was meant to be. :-)
--
François Pinard mailto:pinard@iro.umontreal.ca
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* Re: Encoding Γειά σας
1998-09-11 16:20 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
@ 1998-09-12 2:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-09-11 20:02 ` François Pinard
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-09-12 2:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hallvard B Furuseth <h.b.furuseth@usit.uio.no> writes:
> I wonder how many news/mail agents have implemented QP but not base64?
I know there were a few in the past, but I would guess that more
recent news/mail agents implement both.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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