From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88083 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: agent skips over emails Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:31:47 +0200 Organization: On the Interweb somewhere Message-ID: <87a7qrv858.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531733462 10608 195.159.176.226 (16 Jul 2018 09:31:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:31:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36297@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jul 16 11:30:58 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fezqK-0002aW-Qj for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:30:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fezrU-0004pv-Bs; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 04:32:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fezrK-0004n0-JK for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 04:31:58 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fezrJ-0006F2-5F for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 04:31:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fezrH-0004C6-R8 for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:31:55 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fezp9-0001HO-DE for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:29:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Url: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucecesf/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:S5WFGGvn2eYOs9Lduv7jTqcyGpc= X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88083 Archived-At: Hello, One of my servers is an Outlook server (office365) which I access through IMAP. If I don't enable the agent for this server, everything is fine (although slow). If I enable the agent for this server, gnus misses some emails. If I look at the inbox with another tool (e.g. outlook web access), I can see emails already marked as read that gnus has no record of. The .overview file does not have those emails and the .agentview file has message numbers that include those emails, indicating that it seems to have already seen them. I can get gnus to find the missing emails by manually removing the .agentview file but this means that gnus has to recreate this file when I next open the group. And then later another (seemingly random) email will be missed. I am happy to try to debug this but I have no idea where to start. I have had this problem for years now. I am using emacs snapshot. The problem is not reproducible per se: i.e. I never know if emails have been missed and only some emails are missed. The problem usually arises once I get an error message from gnus that tells me that there are duplicate overview lines. But I don't know why these duplicates appear. Basically, the agent system is great but seems rather fragile. Any pointers would be welcome. Thanks, eric PS - I should add that this problem *only* arises with outlook and not with any other imap server or nntp or any other backend. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid