From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86401 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Russ Allbery Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Possible ideas for "inbox zero" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 23:52:34 -0800 Organization: The Eyrie Message-ID: <87a8pcw3lp.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> References: <874mfkab1p.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87vb808vh9.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450166040 18143 80.91.229.3 (15 Dec 2015 07:54:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:54:00 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M34633@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 15 08:53:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a8kQU-0005vN-Ky for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:53:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a8kPp-0007Xz-1m; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 01:52:57 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a8kPl-0007XR-4t for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 01:52:53 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a8kPi-0006dB-Kr for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 01:52:53 -0600 Original-Received: from haven.eyrie.org ([166.84.7.159]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a8kPh-0001qe-5Z for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:52:49 +0100 Original-Received: from lothlorien.eyrie.org (unknown [96.90.234.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by haven.eyrie.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD4C21180BF for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 23:52:36 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by lothlorien.eyrie.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C202DB4089A; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 23:52:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87vb808vh9.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> ("Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8gren=22's?= message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:24:18 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86401 Archived-At: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj=C3=B8gren) writes: > Uh, uh, uh, I got one! How about something to make Gnus handle the pesky > corporate style of ever expanding TOFU-emails? > I think Gmail and others have adapted a way of displaying these emails > in a sort of collapsed way, so you don't get so depressed about the > repetition=C2=B9. > Maybe there already is a good solution for this, that I have overlooked? That would be so awesome. I had to give up on Gnus for work mail and am using Gmail because of the combination of all of: - Everything is HTML email and everything has italics and bold and emojis and embedded images and tables and whatnot all day long, and Gnus HTML rendering is both very slow and doesn't really do justice to that stuff (and I haven't investigated ways of generating it -- the markup that you get from, say, Markdown, but rendered as HTML so that people's clients can handle it, is really nice for communicating some things). I'm not sure if there's really anything one can do about this, but it's probably the largest problem. - You have to aggressively collapse all the quoted content and basically do a Gmail-style display or email threads from people who use Gmail are effectively unreadable. But you also need to be smart about not hiding in-line replies. (Gmail is mostly smart but has occasional major problems.) - Google Inbox and its snooze functionality is invaluable. (That's directly relevant to this thread.) Admittedly, I use it a lot more than I would with Gnus, since with Gnus stuff would get shuffled off into a pending folder and that also works. But I kind of like snoozing better than the pending folder, since stuff goes in there and is then never seen again, rather than actually being cleared. - Autocomplete against a Gmail address book is pretty valuable. There's probably something that BBDB can do here (I never set it up, since it intimidated me), but I use it a lot when emailing people at the same company who I've never talked to before, but whose name (but not email) I know. --=20 Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org)