From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83136 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: nntp server news.gmane.org tries to use gnutls (Was: nnimap unable to open server unknown service 993) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 23:42:32 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <87a9o6h3g7.fsf_-_@dod.no> References: <87li7q22th.fsf@randomsample.de> <87ehdih3ta.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367963030 2831 80.91.229.3 (7 May 2013 21:43:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 21:43:50 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31402@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 07 23:43:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZpfl-0005AJ-Jh for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 23:43:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UZpen-0001ZQ-NJ; Tue, 07 May 2013 16:42:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UZpem-0001ZB-BY for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 07 May 2013 16:42:44 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UZpek-0005Rc-M1 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 07 May 2013 16:42:44 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UZpej-0003uC-AF for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 23:42:41 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZpej-0004BC-8I for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 23:42:41 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.208.246.141.getinternet.no ([84.208.246.141]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 May 2013 23:42:41 +0200 Original-Received: from sb by cm-84.208.246.141.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 May 2013 23:42:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.208.246.141.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HsdUvzXkzGueAS9H4u4U8hHko5g= X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83136 Archived-At: However, with nnimap working, the next issue is kind of interesting: tls seems to be invoked when entering one of the nntp groups on news.gmane.org: Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org...done gnutls.c: [0] (Emacs) fatal error: Error in the push function. gnutls.c: [0] (Emacs) fatal error: The specified session has been invalidated for some reason. [112 times] This happens only when trying to enter a group. I don't see this error when doing a `g' in the Groups buffer. I have this issue both with news.gmane.org, which is in the gnus-secondary-select-methods, and with ger.gmane.org which has been added to the server buffer. I do not see this issue on news.eclipse.org. I haven't tried any of the other nntp servers yet.