From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80316 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: smtp crap Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:30:56 -0400 Message-ID: <87aa97nghb.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <8739f4kzp3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ipo0p1bc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <58C87CB9F44943A7BBE78F2D6B62A850@us.oracle.com> <83botsf06d.fsf@gnu.org> <83k48cxj85.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318383069 2261 80.91.229.12 (12 Oct 2011 01:31:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , larsi@gnus.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, miles@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 12 03:31:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDney-0005Ad-Qa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 03:31:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42929 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDnex-0002s8-Nl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDneu-0002rr-Km for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDnet-0005hh-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:31:00 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.144]:40729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDnes-0005hR-Aw; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp-128-36-14-81.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.81] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9C1UuXu014796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:30:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:00:13 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.144 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.132.50.144 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144941 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80316 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I cannot speak for Posix platforms nowadays, but I do know that almost > every Windows box out there has its mail client set up Considering the increasing popularity of webmail, this may not be true anymore. Also, I don't like the argument that we should treat Windows users differently from users on other platforms, just because they are likely to use some proprietary mail client. In that context, offering to set up Emacs for sending email is actually good, if it encourages less dependence on such mail clients.