From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79406 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How to display read articles? Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:01:42 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87aacq5mft.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> References: <87sjqjsuqp.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878vsbg5ow.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87tyayoi8f.fsf@psinom.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310040129 16661 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2011 12:02:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 12:02:09 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M27702@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jul 07 14:02:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QenHQ-00022P-Nb for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:02:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QenHD-00083L-BR; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:01:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QenHC-000837-17 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:01:50 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QenH7-0000B7-9T for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:01:49 -0500 Original-Received: from static.103.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.179.103] helo=static.73.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QenH5-0004ta-GR for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:01:43 +0200 Original-Received: from lee by yun.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QenH4-0000Ur-VI for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:01:43 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87tyayoi8f.fsf@psinom.home> (prad@towardsfreedom.com's message of "Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:57:36 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1691--6840h-0s--0d--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-1523--6161h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1411--5707h-0s--0d--H*UA:Gnus, 0.000-1411--5706h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1353--5473h-0s--0d--H*u:linux Spam tokens: 0.998-1--0h-7s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:sk:static., 0.998-1--0h-7s--0d--H*RU:sk:static., 0.966-5769--1378h-53305s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.911-187--216h-3003s--0d--H*r:sk:static., 0.907-3112--4068h-53552s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:quimby.gnus.org Autolearn status: no -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 2.0 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr 1) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79406 Archived-At: prad writes: > lee writes: > >>> Type "/ O" in the Summary buffer and type however many old (aka read) >>> articles you wish to see. >> >> Or you can use C-u RET to enter the group to see all articles right >> away. >> > but is there a way to get all the articles for a particular thread? > > A R seems to do it for email. > A ^ gets the parent > A T does this for some of the thread though not always all of it. > > so if i want to see the articles in an old thread, how can i get it back > (other than try to find it in a gmane repository?) Are you sure the articles are available? How do you know that they are when they aren't found? When you're looking at a newsgroup on a news server, they might not be available. "A T" usually works fine for me, though I have seen a few articles that seemed to refer to others of which no parent was found (particularly in this mailing list, IIRC). "A T" is bound to `gnus-summary-refer-thread': ,---- [ gnus-sum.el ] | (defun gnus-summary-refer-thread (&optional limit) | "Fetch all articles in the current thread. | If no backend-specific 'request-thread function is available | fetch LIMIT (the numerical prefix) old headers. If LIMIT is nil | fetch what's specified by the `gnus-refer-thread-limit' | variable." `---- The default for `gnus-refer-thread-limit' seems to be 500. Getting the parent might give a message that there are no references or that the parent couldn't be found. There has been a discussion about improving this recently here. It seemed to mostly concern articles on IMAP servers. So it seems to depend on what backend you're using. When you can find the thread on gmane, you could try to fetch some articles that couldn't be found with "A T" by their message ID with `gnus-summary-refer-article'. I just tried that with an article in another group, and the article is inserted into the summary of the group for mails from this mailing list. It would be interesting if you get the missing article with `gnus-summary-refer-article' but not with "A T".