From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78253 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leonidas Tsampros Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Tutorials and worg like site for gnus. Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:32:48 +0300 Message-ID: <87aagcbjjz.fsf@bifteki.lan> References: <87vcz0sqjg.fsf@live.com> <87d3l8d95g.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301509301 25046 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2011 18:21:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26562@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 30 20:21:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q501Q-0001oe-2m for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:21:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5016-0003tX-7y; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:21:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5014-0003tI-Lh for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:21:14 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5010-0006XK-Qu for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:21:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ww0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5010-0008MK-0e for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:21:10 +0200 Original-Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so1288532wwi.5 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=OoXE94sxfvXG29Jjb1UgpEaPZkwlEHKf6rYkFI0TfgY=; b=vw2jDp/f5PlVyqVTTT97WtwqniVaFddYFB3k7MdN3dgdak45p3QL4891ETZ6JIeBOj GbbKLiN0iODB3QVJbCQbga4uhifvO50trLNeTE2WFO2q2entZp7vvBsXk7S+q8G4l+ap JUNvzHUf//uCaqb8oXnL7r3QQMlv+7W1jbZ1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=YJcr9jM+eLHvE2f6RZIUWedz9tDTYJw1CEOAStL3b0jMTBzgdxgRTpJqYtbrttl5/a WZDlEhMTDybjFpTaq4eVXxg1fXjB7v0VqQrDAkvrEws9IQHdnftMpqJ8LFApSK2ATccw GrS5K6uFMeVCpjG/n8INqjZZlD/tGF7v50NBg= Original-Received: by 10.216.82.16 with SMTP id n16mr1581189wee.13.1301509264414; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bifteki.lan ([178.128.149.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m73sm164996wej.16.2011.03.30.11.21.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ltsampros-ferrari-one-200 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bifteki.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id B836064A27D; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:32:48 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: <87d3l8d95g.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:34:35 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78253 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:09:55 +0900 Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala wrote: > > YRY> One of the other list I am following is orgmode. I could at least get > YRY> familiar with internal parts of org. Org has a very good website and as > YRY> you all might know Worg written by the community, is fantastic, many > YRY> tutorials which are helping me a lot to get start with different parts. > > YRY> So I think it would be great to have such a system for Gnus as well to > YRY> open the doors to newcomers, given the fact that different backends, > YRY> that complex terminology, and networking stuff make people scare off. > > I think it's better to wait for Cloudy Gnus before mounting this kind of > effort. It is very likely to materially change backend subscriptions, > marks, and the other things that currently make configuring Gnus hard; > tutorials and docs would have to be rebased and that's a lot of work. > > Ted While I've been trying to keep myself as far as possible from git-gnus (It's not for the faint hearted), it would be very much intresting to see what will Cloudy Gnus has to offer from a feature perspective and what old functionality is expected to break. Eventually, at some undefined (to me, that is) time in the future, the new Cloudy Gnus will hit the bzr emacs trunk which I follow, and thus if something breaks, I have to be in brace-for-impact-mode. Is there any comprehensive list of things that WILL be changed and are expected to break in the near future with regards to the standard functionality that is already offered by Gnus? p.s. reading the cloudy-gnus thread a while back did not help me understand the spirit of this effort -- noticing that I'm totally biased for local mail. Leonidas Tsampros