From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77233 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Julien Danjou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Global indicators (was: make-progress-reporter suggestions: 'modeline and customizable progress-reporter--pulse-characters) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:48:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87aahmv2vm.fsf_-_@keller.adm.naquadah.org> References: <87ei76yi1x.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj1ergg5.fsf@gmx.de> <87ipwi3hjm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwrmr6gf.fsf@gmx.de> <8739nm1u6n.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <878vxdxfzw.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwrj6j18.fsf@gmx.de> <87zkpp43s2.fsf@gmx.de> <87aaho0yi1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipwb5fcc.fsf@gnus.org> <87fwrf87f3.fsf@gmx.de> <87tyfuh3l3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298497728 27525 80.91.229.12 (23 Feb 2011 21:48:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Albinus , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25564@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Feb 23 22:48:44 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsMZf-0005Rv-NN for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:48:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PsMZb-0006Qj-Oq; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:48:39 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PsMZa-0006QR-2l for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:48:38 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsMZY-0005pc-TZ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:48:37 -0600 Original-Received: from prometheus.naquadah.org ([212.85.154.174] helo=mx1.naquadah.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsMZX-0008Ke-82 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:48:35 +0100 Original-Received: by mx1.naquadah.org (Postfix, from userid 8) id BC2195C0F0; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:48:34 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on prometheus.naquadah.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Original-Received: from keller.adm.naquadah.org (keller.adm.naquadah.org [192.168.2.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.naquadah.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 258A35C0E1; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:48:31 +0100 (CET) Mail-Followup-To: Chong Yidong , Michael Albinus , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87tyfuh3l3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:56:56 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77233 gmane.emacs.devel:136411 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 23 2011, Chong Yidong wrote: > Global indicators, especially transient ones, ought to use the echo > area. This is a more general problem. There's no space for global indicator in Emacs, e.g. display-time, erc-track etc "abuses" mode-line because they have no other choice. Using the echo area which is transient does not seems like the right thing to do. Unless somone add a non transient part to it. That would be awesome. > If that's too hard, how about reserving the first character in the echo > area for a spinner instead? Why not rather a full part of the echo area for all the global indicators that should be there rather than in the mode-line? =2D-=20 Julien Danjou =E2=9D=B1 http://julien.danjou.info --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNZYCuAAoJEGEbqVCLeKXC/q4P/0fCaS1aCaa7rqr44VxZh9Dy tdH7RATgyTSoDrdTSrqx3pLxgtMjN6dCwcTiIUD8AdimaIESfsB/qW0cyn1FopJn iriPy5OzK421FQ5SwsKrun6wDgRzc9EPAth/pE0hVdl4xfiNlw6XT6jULsjxZjuQ EDcfMpM+yFYtyGDoaEYZcUbgEa7KH2bNTCPxrlfiP6Hx+gBEEODS+P0dwP1JG7kY zW4qBgdYscXTWu0dRYPJoGeZCUgaGxPh1eNbzEFNee/OFNTYGtYKxDKrvbIGNcHQ 8MQGRVPNB3XduCUkNydSuYI0oGHiDTKF7C4H6khlleLGlfAWb2nx3k/1rGG0N9vf /ghv7qGsUPagJ5oLKQ4D7cx9F0FXNVAAyPFVUDTs7pPSrvZdPHyJnehWN53xEDOF 8B9SfR0WolGZm3DR8e9QCnuziJ1CUZysWydHTWNqXXXJKX5VYLkxshIeJ6nTkRcZ L5IJgvsupr1SVnb2zpaeMFkZvFp0nmJsWLeEATPbutGoM4WEe8vRnMSScEp6D+fQ JFllP54EoxIH/H84lZJnpkUyP1fJ7IRIqKZFQoeIox0S9sO1UdYT+eW0R5d+lMVJ X4k0MITdIRXzhG6Q3wa9YPBKVJpikk8Cgk0/SMujW9SbG+joPdRMh8ml1xxzRCLd o65tRHfHXuw9Gb052Mmz =9RDz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--