From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/73340 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: $ collision Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:28:31 +0200 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <87aam9s1xs.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> References: <87pqv779gi.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <87ocarvxt8.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <87fww1efp9.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <88wrpdmoii.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287563366 7560 80.91.229.12 (20 Oct 2010 08:29:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:29:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M21711@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Oct 20 10:29:25 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8U31-0002VO-Mv for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:29:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P8U2c-0003FS-5i; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:28:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P8U2Z-0003F6-2g for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:28:55 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8U2X-00054J-Lx for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:28:54 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P8U2W-000891-00 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:28:52 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8U2S-0002Cl-Fq for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:28:48 +0200 Original-Received: from rain.gmane.org ([80.91.229.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:28:48 +0200 Original-Received: from asjo by rain.gmane.org with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:28:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:73340 Archived-At: On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 07:17:25 +0200, Richard wrote: > How is Esc d more key strokes than M-d for me or Shift $ ? ESC d is "press the escape key, then press the d key" → two keystrokes. M-d is "hold down the meta key while pressing the d key" → one keystroke. On my keyboard "$" is "hold down the right alt key while pressing the 4 key" → one keystroke. I think "holding down a (modifier-)key while pressing another key" is sometimes called "a chorded keystroke"? I think this explicitly puts this thread to bed. :-), Adam -- "Few things are less comforting than a tiger who's up Adam Sjøgren too late." asjo@koldfront.dk