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From: Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr>
Subject: Re: comments on pgnus-v0.80
Date: 13 Apr 1999 09:21:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87aewdyohz.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: SL Baur's message of "07 Apr 1999 03:58:35 -0700"

SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:

> * Escape Quoted is not a wise default for a coding system and can
>   lead to lossage[1].  It is probably better to let the editor
>   decide which coding system to use.

Can you elaborate on this?  I'm genuinely interested to hear what
"escape quoted coding system" and "let the editor decide" mean.
Specifically, why does it matter which coding system the buffer is
using, when Gnus will recode everything prior to sending it?

> * The MIME display defaults are unintuitive.  Could you please make
>   them more Netscapish?  In particular, every MIME type that can be
>   displayed inline, should be displayed inline by default, at least
>   in XEmacs.  It's what most users have come to expect.

This is what is currently being done, with two exceptions:

* Parts specifically marked as "attachments";

* Images larger than the window, which would be unscrollable in
  XEmacs.

I think it's a reasonable default (I haven't changed it.)

> * Notwithstanding the previous item and the coolness of Lars'
>   presentation, I'm not sure I like handing html parts to W3 as a
>   default.  It was pretty cool that tm blanked it out -- html
>   doesn't belong in either mail or news.  How fast does this all
>   work on slow(er) machines?  W3 flies on Demeter, but that's not
>   exactly a fair test yet.

It's very slow with default W3 settings.  Per is probably not a good
judge of the speed, as he turns off all the fonts and images stuff
(and he runs under FSF which is a good deal faster anyway).

I think presenting HTML to W3 makes sense.  I turn it off like this:

(require 'mm-decode)
(setq mm-alternative-precedence (delete "text/html"
					mm-alternative-precedence)
      mm-alternative-precedence (nconc mm-alternative-precedence
				       (list "text/html")))

I don't know if your mom would grok that.  Mine wouldn't.

> * There doesn't appear to be any obvious way to send message/rfc822
>   subparts.  The inability of tm to rationally deal with this MIME
>   type is its biggest failing IMO.

Gnus doesn't deal with it rationally either.

> * The broken `Attach file as MIME' function in the Message menu
>   should have a default keybinding.  How about C-c C-x TAB?

`C-c C-a' should work, and is compatible with what VM had for ages.
Even the prompts are VM-like.  Why is it broken, BTW?


  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-04-13  7:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-07 10:58 SL Baur
1999-04-07 11:21 ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-04-17  7:14   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-04-17 14:36     ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-04-17 15:19       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-04-07 11:23 ` Lee Willis
1999-04-07 11:27   ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]     ` <lzaewkmzo1.fsf@landlord.gbdirect.co.uk>
1999-04-07 11:48       ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-04-07 13:08   ` Stefanie Teufel
1999-04-07 12:24 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-08 10:53   ` SL Baur
1999-04-08 11:13     ` Lee Willis
1999-04-08 14:45   ` Alan Shutko
1999-04-17  7:16     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-04-07 12:26 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-07 15:07   ` Justin Sheehy
1999-04-07 15:35     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-08 10:56   ` SL Baur
1999-04-08 11:05     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-08 11:11     ` Lee Willis
1999-04-17  7:19     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-04-17 14:46       ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-04-17 15:21         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-04-17 16:05           ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-04-17 16:04         ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-04-07 13:18 ` Alan Shutko
1999-04-07 15:06 ` Justin Sheehy
1999-04-07 15:29 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-04-08 10:59   ` SL Baur
1999-04-08 14:10     ` Rupa Schomaker (list)
1999-04-08 14:25       ` William M. Perry
1999-04-07 15:36 ` Jan Vroonhof
1999-04-08 11:02   ` SL Baur
1999-04-08 11:07     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-08 11:14       ` SL Baur
1999-04-08 11:33         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-08 11:50       ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-04-08 11:42     ` Jan Vroonhof
1999-04-08 11:53       ` SL Baur
1999-04-09  6:59         ` Steinar Bang
1999-04-10 11:19         ` lconrad
     [not found]         ` <m3yak03eq8.fsf@serpent.laymusic.>
1999-04-17  7:34           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-04-08 13:36     ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-04-07 16:29 ` Simon Josefsson
1999-04-07 18:35   ` using agent for a full preview Simon Michael
1999-04-08 11:03     ` SL Baur
1999-04-08 14:22       ` Colin Rafferty
1999-04-07 17:31 ` comments on pgnus-v0.80 Shenghuo ZHU
1999-04-07 19:01 ` Hans de Graaff
1999-04-13  7:21 ` Hrvoje Niksic [this message]
1999-04-17  7:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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