downscore a subject temporarily

downscore a subject temporarily

[Emanuel Berg]

How do you say "not into this thread" in Gnus?

I tried to use `gnus-summary-lower-score' but it's a lot of
keys to hit: first a key for that function, then s for the
subject, then e for exact match, then t for temporary ...

That interface is also peculiar, not what we are used to in
Lisp, so I don't understand how to automate it from just
looking at the source ...

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Re: downscore a subject temporarily

[Andreas Schwab]

On Mär 21 2023, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> I tried to use `gnus-summary-lower-score' but it's a lot of
> keys to hit: first a key for that function, then s for the
> subject, then e for exact match, then t for temporary ...

For a temporary score two keys are enough (L S), or three if you need
exact match (L s E) or customize gnus-score-default-type and/or
gnus-score-default-header.

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Re: downscore a subject temporarily

[Emanuel Berg]

Andreas Schwab wrote:

>> I tried to use `gnus-summary-lower-score' but it's a lot of
>> keys to hit: first a key for that function, then s for the
>> subject, then e for exact match, then t for temporary ...
>
> For a temporary score two keys are enough (L S), or three if
> you need exact match (L s E) or customize
> gnus-score-default-type and/or gnus-score-default-header.

You mean like this?

(setq gnus-score-default-type   'e)
(setq gnus-score-default-header 's)

It's still 3 keys, L t RET - it's better (thanks), but it's
still too much. Why isn't there a proper interface so you can
use a custom Lisp function?

Something like

  (gnus-summary-downscore-article-at-point 'subject 'exact 'temporary)

PS. Is that the best way to block a thread on something you
    don't care about BTW? Maybe it should be based on
    a reference to a mail/post (article) instead? But recall
    that subjects sometimes change, and you want to give them
    a new chanse, if that happens. As in

      Subject: Really interesting stuff (was: Uninteresting stuff)

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Re: downscore a subject temporarily

[Andreas Schwab]

You have misspelled gnus-summary-score-entry.

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Re: downscore a subject temporarily

[Emanuel Berg]

Andreas Schwab wrote:

> You have misspelled gnus-summary-score-entry.

It can't be used like that, well, one must then retrieve the
header manually, and find and reuse the function that
calculates what temporary means ... and make it interactive.

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Re: downscore a subject temporarily

[Andreas Schwab]

You are free to write your own interface.

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Re: downscore a subject temporarily

[Emanuel Berg]

Andreas Schwab wrote:

> You are free to write your own interface.

There is no interactive Lisp function that corresponds to that
interface, the one currently employed, the way we are used to.

That solution is one of a kind, not bad per se, but it gets
more complicated than necessary, for example as we see
right now.

And for a pretty standard use case at that.

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Re: downscore a subject temporarily

[Emanuel Berg]

>> You are free to write your own interface.
>
> There is no interactive Lisp function that corresponds to that
> interface, the one currently employed, the way we are used to.
>
> That solution is one of a kind, not bad per se, but it gets
> more complicated than necessary, for example as we see
> right now.
>
> And for a pretty standard use case at that.

But okay, let me work in it, then ...

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Re: downscore a subject temporarily

[Emanuel Berg]

I think this works.

Give the boring subjects a new shot in the new year, right?

There is still something in me that tells me there is a better
way to do it, but let's see if this is actually good enough
for government work then ...

;;; -*- lexical-binding: t -*-
;;
;; this file:
;;   https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/gnus/gnus-score-incal.el

(require 'gnus-score)

(defun next-year ()
  (format "%d-01-01" (1+ (string-to-number (format-time-string "%Y")))) )

(defun gnus-summary-downscore-subject ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((hdr "subject"))
    (gnus-summary-score-entry
       hdr
       (gnus-summary-header hdr)
       'e
       -1000
       (next-year) )))

(defalias 'gs #'gnus-summary-downscore-subject)

(provide 'gnus-score-incal)

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