* problems with gcc
@ 2021-01-12 8:14 Uwe Brauer
2021-01-12 11:37 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-01-12 13:53 ` Adam Sjøgren
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-01-12 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Hi
I have set, as recommended in the documentation
(setq gnus-message-archive-group
'((if (message-news-p)
"sent-news"
"sent-mail")))
When I use gnus-group-mail in the main group buffer I obtain
The following buffer
,----
| To:
| Subject:
| From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
| Gcc: nnml+archive:sent-mail, nnml+archive:sent-news
| --text follows this line--
`----
When I do this from any other, no gnus buffer I obtain the same.
However I have also set in my mail buffers
[ ] GCC: Value Menu To current group
Specify default value for GCC header. More
So when I use
runs the command gnus-summary-post-news
I obtain
,----
| To:
| Subject:
| Gcc: nnimap+UCMgmail:INBOX, nnml+archive:sent-news
| From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
| Reply-To: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
| --text follows this line--
`----
Which contains the nnml+archive:sent-news
That I don't understand.
Any ideas?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
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* Re: problems with gcc
2021-01-12 8:14 problems with gcc Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-01-12 11:37 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-01-12 13:28 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-01-12 13:30 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-01-12 13:53 ` Adam Sjøgren
1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2021-01-12 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Uwe Brauer wrote:
> (setq gnus-message-archive-group
> '((if (message-news-p)
> "sent-news"
> "sent-mail")))
>
> [...]
>
> So when I use
>
> runs the command gnus-summary-post-news
> I obtain
>
> ,----
> | To:
> | Subject:
> | Gcc: nnimap+UCMgmail:INBOX, nnml+archive:sent-news
> | From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
> | Reply-To: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
> | --text follows this line--
> `----
>
> Which contains the nnml+archive:sent-news
>
> That I don't understand.
... why not?
Don't you expect `message-news-p' to be true after
`gnus-summary-post-news'?
Well, it is anyway. You know, news ... news :)
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* Re: problems with gcc
2021-01-12 11:37 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2021-01-12 13:28 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-01-12 17:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-01-12 13:30 ` Uwe Brauer
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-01-12 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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> Uwe Brauer wrote:
> ... why not?
> Don't you expect `message-news-p' to be true after
> `gnus-summary-post-news'?
> Well, it is anyway. You know, news ... news :)
But why then to have if?
Ok then which command should I use to send, hm, mail?
I mean I want one GCC for mail and one for newsgroups.
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* Re: problems with gcc
2021-01-12 13:28 ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-01-12 17:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-01-13 18:50 ` Uwe Brauer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2021-01-12 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Uwe Brauer wrote:
>> Don't you expect `message-news-p' to be true after
>> `gnus-summary-post-news'?
>>
>> Well, it is anyway. You know, news ... news :)
>
> But why then to have if?
It is so to have different archives for news and mails, as
you know.
I don't like that, I like it to be the same, interface and
archive and everything, at least everything on my end of
things, so I do
(setq message-default-news-headers "To: ")
(setq message-default-mail-headers "Newsgroups: ")
(setq gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t)
(setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnml:mail.sent")
then send with
(gnus-post-news 'post "") ; [1]
> Ok then which command should I use to send, hm, mail?
`compose-mail' ?
But again I think it makes more sense to have the same
interface and then let the content of the headers decide if it
is news, mail, or both.
> I mean I want one GCC for mail and one for newsgroups.
Yes, and you should be on the right track :)
[1] new-message, line 54 in
https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/gnus/gnus-my.el
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* Re: problems with gcc
2021-01-12 17:52 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2021-01-13 18:50 ` Uwe Brauer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-01-13 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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>>> "EB" == Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> writes:
> Uwe Brauer wrote:
>>> Don't you expect `message-news-p' to be true after
>>> `gnus-summary-post-news'?
>>>
>>> Well, it is anyway. You know, news ... news :)
>>
>> But why then to have if?
> It is so to have different archives for news and mails, as
> you know.
> I don't like that, I like it to be the same, interface and
> archive and everything, at least everything on my end of
> things, so I do
> (setq message-default-news-headers "To: ")
> (setq message-default-mail-headers "Newsgroups: ")
> (setq gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t)
> (setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnml:mail.sent")
> then send with
> (gnus-post-news 'post "") ; [1]
>> Ok then which command should I use to send, hm, mail?
> `compose-mail' ?
> But again I think it makes more sense to have the same
> interface and then let the content of the headers decide if it
> is news, mail, or both.
>> I mean I want one GCC for mail and one for newsgroups.
> Yes, and you should be on the right track :)
> [1] new-message, line 54 in
> https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/gnus/gnus-my.el
Interesting thanks.
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* Re: problems with gcc
2021-01-12 11:37 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-01-12 13:28 ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-01-12 13:30 ` Uwe Brauer
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-01-12 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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> Uwe Brauer wrote:
> ... why not?
> Don't you expect `message-news-p' to be true after
> `gnus-summary-post-news'?
> Well, it is anyway. You know, news ... news :)
I tried gnus-summary-mail-other-window and it shows the same behavior.
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* Re: problems with gcc
2021-01-12 8:14 problems with gcc Uwe Brauer
2021-01-12 11:37 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2021-01-12 13:53 ` Adam Sjøgren
2021-01-12 15:56 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-01-12 16:05 ` Uwe Brauer
1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2021-01-12 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Uwe writes:
> I have set, as recommended in the documentation
>
> (setq gnus-message-archive-group
> '((if (message-news-p)
> "sent-news"
> "sent-mail")))
>
> When I use gnus-group-mail in the main group buffer I obtain
>
> The following buffer
>
> ,----
> | To:
> | Subject:
> | From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
> | Gcc: nnml+archive:sent-mail, nnml+archive:sent-news
> | --text follows this line--
> `----
Do you have anything else in your configuration about sent-news?
Something in group/topic parameters?
I have this:
(setq gnus-message-archive-group
'((if (message-news-p)
(concat "news-" (format-time-string "%Y"))
(concat "mail-" (format-time-string "%Y")))))
in my .gnus, and when I press 'm' (gnus-group-mail) in the *Group*
buffer, I get:
,----
| To:
| Subject:
| From: "Adam Sjøgren" <asjo@koldfront.dk>
| Gcc: nnml+archive:mail-2021
`----
If I instead press 'a' (gnus-group-post-news), I get:
,----
| Newsgroups:
| Subject:
| From: "Adam Sjøgren" <asjo@koldfront.dk>
| Gcc: nnml+archive:news-2021
`----
as expected. I suspect your configuration is funky :-)
Best regards,
Adam
--
"What if tomorrow wasn't there Adam Sjøgren
Never a next week, never just another year" asjo@koldfront.dk
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* Re: problems with gcc
2021-01-12 13:53 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2021-01-12 15:56 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-01-12 16:05 ` Uwe Brauer
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-01-12 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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>>> "AS" == Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes:
> Uwe writes:
>> I have set, as recommended in the documentation
>>
>> (setq gnus-message-archive-group
>> '((if (message-news-p)
>> "sent-news"
>> "sent-mail")))
>>
>> When I use gnus-group-mail in the main group buffer I obtain
>>
>> The following buffer
>>
>> ,----
>> | To:
>> | Subject:
>> | From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
>> | Gcc: nnml+archive:sent-mail, nnml+archive:sent-news
>> | --text follows this line--
>> `----
> Do you have anything else in your configuration about sent-news?
> Something in group/topic parameters?
No.
> I have this:
> (setq gnus-message-archive-group
> '((if (message-news-p)
> (concat "news-" (format-time-string "%Y"))
> (concat "mail-" (format-time-string "%Y")))))
> in my .gnus, and when I press 'm' (gnus-group-mail) in the *Group*
> buffer, I get:
As I said I just followed the documentation which recommends
(setq gnus-message-archive-group
'((if (message-news-p)
"sent-news"
"sent-mail")))
However describe variable gnus-message-archive-group tells me:
gnus-message-archive-group is a variable defined in ‘gnus.el’.
Its value is ((if (message-news-p) "sent-news" "sent-mail"))
Original value was
((format-time-string "sent.%Y-%m"))
So everything should be fine I don't like the original setting since I
want to distinguish between mail and news (maybe I shouldn't). I will
try your setting
Regards
Uwe
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* Re: problems with gcc
2021-01-12 13:53 ` Adam Sjøgren
2021-01-12 15:56 ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-01-12 16:05 ` Uwe Brauer
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-01-12 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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> Uwe writes:
> Do you have anything else in your configuration about sent-news?
> Something in group/topic parameters?
> I have this:
> (setq gnus-message-archive-group
> '((if (message-news-p)
> (concat "news-" (format-time-string "%Y"))
> (concat "mail-" (format-time-string "%Y")))))
> in my .gnus, and when I press 'm' (gnus-group-mail) in the *Group*
> buffer, I get:
> ,----
> | To:
> | Subject:
> | From: "Adam Sjøgren" <asjo@koldfront.dk>
> | Gcc: nnml+archive:mail-2021
> `----
> If I instead press 'a' (gnus-group-post-news), I get:
> ,----
> | Newsgroups:
> | Subject:
> | From: "Adam Sjøgren" <asjo@koldfront.dk>
> | Gcc: nnml+archive:news-2021
> `----
> as expected. I suspect your configuration is funky :-)
I obtain with your setting: run in the (main group) buffer
Newsgroups:
Subject:
From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
Gcc: nnml+archive:news-2021, nnml+archive:sent-news
--text follows this line--
Or
To:
Subject:
From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
Gcc: nnml+archive:mail-2021, nnml+archive:sent-news
So the f... Sent-news is always there hm
Ok I found it my mistake!
(defun my-new-insert-sent-news-gcc ()
(interactive)
(save-excursion
(message-carefully-insert-headers (list (cons 'Gcc (concat "nnml+archive:sent-news"))))))
(add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'my-new-insert-sent-news-gcc)
I don't know when and why I put it. Sorry for the noise
Uwe
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