From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80121 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: message splitting gone haywire Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:09:16 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87bou3jv8z.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87ippv2phj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877h4rn3ot.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uuziuzj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sjnfjz1h.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wrcrh2rr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Reply-To: ding@gnus.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317305428 28876 80.91.229.12 (29 Sep 2011 14:10:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:10:28 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28415@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Sep 29 16:10:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9HJd-0002cb-IY for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:10:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R9HJV-0007eB-8j; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R9HJU-0007e1-2B for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:10:12 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R9HJP-0000n0-DN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:10:11 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R9HJO-0006aB-1a for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:10:06 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9HJM-0002SG-Ml for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:10:04 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.133 ([38.98.147.133]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:10:04 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.133 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:10:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.133 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NDqELxbr157hoDm6elwB7O3fiJU= X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80121 Archived-At: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:55:04 +0800 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: EA> On Thu, Sep 29 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:00:16 +0800 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> EA> I'm not sure what proper behavior should be, but I did expect that EA> split-with-parent would send new messages to the location of the EA> newest/nearest parent, and not to where some distant ancestor had once EA> gone. >> >> Good point. Well, we build the full list of groups, then we call >> `gnus-registry-post-process-groups' on it. That looks at >> `gnus-registry-split-strategy' which is nil by default; the defcustom >> says: >> >> '(choice :tag "Splitting strategy" >> (const :tag "Only use single choices, discard multiple matches" nil) >> (const :tag "Majority of matches wins" majority) >> (const :tag "First found wins" first)) >> >> Have you customized this? My guess is you have 'first and the first >> group in the list was from the oldest reference. EA> Huh, I set this to 'majority, probably early on when I had no idea how EA> all this actually worked. That would indicate that I must have had more EA> messages in the "wrong" group than in the "right", yes? It sure didn't EA> seem that way at the time, though I could very well have been wrong. EA> Anyway, now that I know how this actually works, it does seem that a EA> 'newest and 'oldest would be handy. Yes, or there is a bug in my code ;) I should improve the logging in that area. I get 'newest but I can't think of a reason for 'oldest. Can you? Either way they should be easy to implement, I just order the references by age and then act as if the strategy was 'first. But I just can't think of a way to use 'oldest. Ted