* How does Lars read Ding?
@ 2011-08-22 13:35 jidanni
2011-08-22 14:04 ` Tassilo Horn
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2011-08-22 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
How does Lars read Ding?
If he reads it on
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general
like some of us, then he will miss out on my hit article
http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org
which is quite a shame.
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-22 13:35 How does Lars read Ding? jidanni
@ 2011-08-22 14:04 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-22 22:28 ` jidanni
2011-09-10 22:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-22 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: ding
jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
> How does Lars read Ding?
Usually one message after the other. :-) SCNR
> If he reads it on
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general
> like some of us, then he will miss out on my hit article
> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org
> which is quite a shame.
How should anyone read it on ding, no matter how he reads the latter?
You've posted that message to gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen...
Bye,
Tassilo
--
Sent from my Emacs
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-22 14:04 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2011-08-22 22:28 ` jidanni
2011-08-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-09-10 22:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2011-08-22 22:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tassilo; +Cc: ding
>>>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:
>> If he reads it on
>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general
>> like some of us, then he will miss out on my hit article
>> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org
>> which is quite a shame.
TH> How should anyone read it on ding, no matter how he reads the latter?
TH> You've posted that message to gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen...
And one other group, but the message will only show up in the first
group, unless one has NNTP, which LarDs :) better have, as this is a pretty
big bug... the bigger the bug, the more one wants to crosspost it, but
even one crosspost, and Lar*s will never see it... :(
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-22 22:28 ` jidanni
@ 2011-08-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-23 9:06 ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-08-23 11:38 ` jidanni
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-23 7:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: ding
jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
Hi!
>>> If he reads it on
>>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general
>>> like some of us, then he will miss out on my hit article
>>> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org
>>> which is quite a shame.
>
> TH> How should anyone read it on ding, no matter how he reads the latter?
> TH> You've posted that message to gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen...
>
> And one other group, but the message will only show up in the first
> group, unless one has NNTP, which LarDs :) better have, as this is a
> pretty big bug...
Oh, I see. Your mail is in my ding box (ding, the mailing list), but it
seems not to be on gmane.emacs.gnus.general. Seems to be a Gmane bug...
With respect to your .newsrc.eld issue: Katsumi already told you how to
fix it. And of course, using a snapshot version can be a bit risky at
times, so you should know what you are doing.
That said, emacs and gnus are usually very stable even in their
development versions. I use the dev versions of both and update them
every two days, and didn't hit your issue.
> the bigger the bug, the more one wants to crosspost it, but even one
> crosspost, and Lar*s will never see it... :(
I think, you should explain the crossposting issue on gmane.discuss.
Bye,
Tassilo
--
Sent from my Emacs
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2011-08-23 9:06 ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-08-23 10:36 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-23 11:38 ` jidanni
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-08-23 9:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:00:24 +0200, Tassilo wrote:
> jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
>>>> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org
[...]
> Oh, I see. Your mail is in my ding box (ding, the mailing list), but it
> seems not to be on gmane.emacs.gnus.general. Seems to be a Gmane bug...
Uhm:
$ echo -e "GROUP gmane.emacs.gnus.general\nHEAD 79706\nQUIT" | nc news.gmane.org nntp | egrep '^(Message-ID|Xref):'
Message-ID: <87aab1k78j.fsf@jidanni.org>
Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2690 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79706
$
Best regards,
Adam
--
"Vi är små citroner" Adam Sjøgren
asjo@koldfront.dk
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-23 9:06 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2011-08-23 10:36 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-29 1:22 ` jidanni
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-23 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>> Oh, I see. Your mail is in my ding box (ding, the mailing list), but
>> it seems not to be on gmane.emacs.gnus.general. Seems to be a Gmane
>> bug...
>
> Uhm:
>
> $ echo -e "GROUP gmane.emacs.gnus.general\nHEAD 79706\nQUIT" | nc news.gmane.org nntp | egrep '^(Message-ID|Xref):'
> Message-ID: <87aab1k78j.fsf@jidanni.org>
> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2690 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79706
Strange. Now the mid search
http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org
shows
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen, gmane.emacs.gnus.general
for that article. I was kinda sure it was only the former group
yesterday. Probably, I'm getting old...
Bye,
Tassilo
--
Sent from my Emacs
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-23 9:06 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2011-08-23 11:38 ` jidanni
2011-09-29 8:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2011-08-23 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tassilo; +Cc: ding
>>>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:
TH> I think, you should explain the crossposting issue on gmane.discuss.
Yes I've already done that there many times.
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-23 10:36 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2011-08-29 1:22 ` jidanni
2011-08-29 1:41 ` Dave Abrahams
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2011-08-29 1:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tassilo; +Cc: ding
>>>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:
TH> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>> $ echo -e "GROUP gmane.emacs.gnus.general\nHEAD 79706\nQUIT" | nc news.gmane.org nntp | egrep '^(Message-ID|Xref):'
>> Message-ID: <87aab1k78j.fsf@jidanni.org>
>> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2690 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79706
TH> Strange. Now the mid search
TH> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org
TH> shows
TH> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen, gmane.emacs.gnus.general
TH> for that article. I was kinda sure it was only the former group
TH> yesterday. Probably, I'm getting old...
No. It is a bug that {the gmane administrators} refuse to fix.
The bug is: even though
* http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/2690
* http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79706
both exist, you will always see that article in
* http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/
and never in
* http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/
because only the first group of a crosspost gets indexed. B U G. BB UU GG.
"But who cares, right, because everything works fine if you read instead
via NNTP, so we'll fix it around year 2038, because nobody reads via the
web interface." is probably the thinking of the executive staff :-(
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-29 1:22 ` jidanni
@ 2011-08-29 1:41 ` Dave Abrahams
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Dave Abrahams @ 2011-08-29 1:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
on Sun Aug 28 2011, jidanni-AT-jidanni.org wrote:
> No. It is a bug that {the gmane administrators} refuse to fix.
> The bug is: even though
> * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/2690
> * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79706both exist, you will always see that article in
> * http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/and never in
> * http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/because only the first group of a crosspost gets indexed. B U G. BB UU GG.
>
> "But who cares, right, because everything works fine if you read instead
> via NNTP, so we'll fix it around year 2038, because nobody reads via the
> web interface." is probably the thinking of the executive staff :-(
Uhm, the "executive staff" is Lars, the same generous soul who brings
you Gnus for free. If you could do better, please, go for it!
--
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-22 14:04 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-22 22:28 ` jidanni
@ 2011-09-10 22:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-09-10 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:
> Usually one message after the other. :-) SCNR
Yeah, but the last ones first. :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-08-23 11:38 ` jidanni
@ 2011-09-29 8:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-01 2:59 ` jidanni
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-09-29 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:38:35 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
>>>>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:
TH> I think, you should explain the crossposting issue on gmane.discuss.
j> Yes I've already done that there many times.
...so you post on the Gnus mailing list, which has nothing to do with
the bug, with a misleading title? Don't you think that's rude, if not
to Lars, at least to the rest of us?
Ted
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-09-29 8:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-10-01 2:59 ` jidanni
2011-10-03 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2011-10-01 2:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
TZ> ...so you post on the Gnus mailing list, which has nothing to do with
TZ> the bug, with a misleading title? Don't you think that's rude, if not
TZ> to Lars, at least to the rest of us?
Well one needs to crosspost to prove the bug exists, right?
And one needs to prove the bug exists to get someone to fix it, right?
And now you agree I have proved the bug, right?
And now it will never get fixed, right?
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* Re: How does Lars read Ding?
2011-10-01 2:59 ` jidanni
@ 2011-10-03 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-10-03 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:59:31 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
>>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
TZ> ...so you post on the Gnus mailing list, which has nothing to do with
TZ> the bug, with a misleading title? Don't you think that's rude, if not
TZ> to Lars, at least to the rest of us?
j> Well one needs to crosspost to prove the bug exists, right?
j> And one needs to prove the bug exists to get someone to fix it, right?
j> And now you agree I have proved the bug, right?
I agree it's good to prove the bug exists. But you did it in a rude way.
j> And now it will never get fixed, right?
Please ask in a different forum.
Ted
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