From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/72353 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: A few basic nnimap problems Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:08:12 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <87bp7ft2oj.fsf@dod.no> References: <87aamz17w0.fsf@nemi.mork.no> <8762xn151w.fsf@nemi.mork.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285877324 28153 80.91.229.12 (30 Sep 2010 20:08:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:08:44 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M20726@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Sep 30 22:08:43 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1PQo-0007Kr-Gi for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:08:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P1PQg-0007Ap-5n; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:08:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P1PQe-0007Ab-Dk for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:08:32 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P1PQa-0004Hd-Ag for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:08:32 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P1PQZ-0004Ec-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:08:27 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1PQV-0007Ca-JB for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:08:23 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.208.200.46.getinternet.no ([84.208.200.46]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:08:23 +0200 Original-Received: from sb by cm-84.208.200.46.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:08:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.208.200.46.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+RAzjPD/LS4ae1wChTrvNn1iZcE= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:72353 Archived-At: >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen : > Bjørn Mork writes: >>> I think imaps is probably more popular these days than imap + starttls. >> >> really? Anyway, I still expect an imap client to connect to the imap >> port by default. Just as I expect my browser to connect to port 80 by >> default, although 443 might become more popular over time. > I expect my mail client to default to using whatever is the most likely > default, and not worry my little head about port numbers and other rilly > technical stuff. I expect imap to mean imap and imaps to mean imaps, the way /etc/services meant them to do. All other clients I have tried configuring have had imap config starting out with port 143 as the default, and switching over to 993 if the checkbox for use secure connection is ticked.