From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66950 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: reader@newsguy.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: [OT]sendmail ssl authentication Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:31:59 -0500 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87bq37aba8.fsf@newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210888792 22436 80.91.229.12 (15 May 2008 21:59:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:59:52 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15428@lists.math.uh.edu Fri May 16 00:00:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JwlUx-0001rp-7k for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 16 May 2008 00:00:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JwlTf-0006IF-68; Thu, 15 May 2008 16:59:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JweVL-0004Bb-3R for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 15 May 2008 09:32:23 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JweVF-0006tF-4i for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 15 May 2008 09:32:22 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JweVS-0006nG-00 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 16:32:30 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JweV6-0006lp-Le for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:32:08 +0000 Original-Received: from c-67-162-73-42.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.162.73.42]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:32:08 +0000 Original-Received: from reader by c-67-162-73-42.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:32:08 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 53 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-162-73-42.hsd1.il.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SSGWfYPXm7Zz9i2pji4DLyJ3DDo= X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66950 Archived-At: I guess this is a little off topic but here on this group is where I'm most likely to find someone using gnus and sendmail. I've been using sendmail as my local mta for yrs and have struggled through many different ISPs quirks. But I've never had to use ssl to connect to my ISPs smart host. With something like thunderbird, that doesn't appear to use sendmail, its just a matter of checking the right box. But when I google around about setting sendmail up for ssl I find a lot of confusing overlap with people whos problem is authenticating remote users on a mail server. In my case its the other way round... I'm attempting to pass my mail to comcast cable network server smtp.comcast.net. So its not clear if all the setup for a server is necessary for me. I've been running with a working connection for months but now they have apparently adopted ssl authentication and my old /etc/mail/authinfo doesn't work. Sending a message with `mail -v' and watching the smtp conversation I see my messages get to the comcast mail server, (posted separately) but there is no mention of any authentication problem only a `deferred' and then timeout. In case anyone suggests it: I don't really want to side step and use the smtp.el package inside of gnus because I like for other mail tools like mailx to work too. Currently I have sendmail.mc setup to use authinfo, and as I've mentioned it worked for mnths but now the server has changed over to using ssl and uses a different port... I think 465. At least that is what popped up when I checked the ssl box on thunderbird. sendmail.mc and authinfo are also posted but its getting to be quite a lot to inline here so posting authinfo sendmail.mc smtp conversation here: http://www.jtan.com/~reader/sendmail/disp.cgi Does anyone know what I need in sendmail setup to allow ssl authentication at my ISP smtp server? As I mentioned earlier; Googling, I see a lot of confusing overlap with STARTLS and TLS and mention of creating certs and the like. But in thunderbird, it only takes checking a simple box so I'm thinking the above googled findings are more about an actual mail server being setup for remote clients and may not be necessary for my situation.