From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/51971 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jon Ericson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How many people mark spam in gmane groups? Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:48:44 -0700 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87brypdqzn.fsf@jpl.nasa.gov> References: <4n4r5aowwm.fsf@chubby.bwh.harvard.edu> <4n4r4y1jx8.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87of2urq7l.fsf@jpl.nasa.gov> <4nvfwxql0s.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87wuhddwjl.fsf@jpl.nasa.gov> <4nr87lqixn.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051645773 9821 80.91.224.249 (29 Apr 2003 19:49:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M514@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Apr 29 21:49:28 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Ab6W-0002XJ-00 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:49:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Ab63-0003GG-00; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:48:59 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Ab5v-0003GA-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:48:51 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 23236 invoked by alias); 29 Apr 2003 19:48:50 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 23229 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2003 19:48:49 -0000 Original-Received: from eis-msg-012.jpl.nasa.gov (137.78.160.40) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2003 19:48:49 -0000 Original-Received: from jon-ericson.SDSIO.JPL.NASA.GOV.sdsio.jpl.nasa.gov (jon-ericson.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.223.100]) by eis-msg-012.jpl.nasa.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3TJmmoH000714 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <4nr87lqixn.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:04:20 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.09002 (Oort Gnus v0.20) XEmacs/21.4 (Native Windows TTY Support (Windows), cygwin32) X-Face: "Ro}i#1h*rV:tg+F.!]r/y,RDL'`*sc[_1LB'%*akh@LHbt,:gBJ/:2cS@:hpBLtYO)o3a; w3Tli`r,.jIZD-zR)p7:^V^}#Wz@.\av>O{!8S.h>lnL3eMT1",~EiISLm4rw/*qVW3xE#vj4}#Cq' 57,?HW3K-Hl.B+&{=>+e;R:J~'tJ*~fS*2n-G_8_5eS[w?#*JF~tj#~=zglo*\&YBS1&Zr2gP] Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:51971 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:51971 Ted Zlatanov writes: > spam-report-gmane-regex is consulted only when spam-report-gmane is > invoked. To invoke it, you have to activate the > gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane spam exit processor. > Customize the variable gnus-spam-process-newsgroups (you could also > do it with group/topic parameters but you already said you can't). Eureka! g-s-p-n was the variable I was looking for[1]. But now I'm even more confused about s-r-g-r. It seems there are several ways to have s-r-g invoked: * Set the group/topic parameter. In this case s-r-g-r is irrelevant because you've already indicated precisely what groups are Gmane groups. * Set g-s-p-n to indicate a regexp matching Gmane groups and applying the g-g-s-e-p-r-g exit processor to those groups. If the regexp in g-s-p-n is accurate, s-r-g-r is irrelevant. * Call s-r-g independent of spam.el. In this case, s-r-g-r might be useful, but the documentation doesn't make any sense: String matching Gmane newsgroups if wanted, e.g. "^nntp+.*:gmane."[2] This is probably handled better with group/topic parameters. It'd make more sense to say something like: Regexp matching Gmane newsgroups. If you are using spam.el, consider setting gnus-spam-process-newsgroups or the gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane group/topic parameter instead. > I know spam.el is a bit intimidating to new users, and will try to > put some useful novice info in the manual in time for Gnus 5.10. I must admit that I only skimmed the manual. I'm sure a more detailed reading of the spam sections would have helped. Jon P.S. Why is the Mail-Followup-To set to "Jon Ericson , ding@gnus.org"? When I hit 'F' to reply, the mail was to be sent to me and CCed to the list. Is this what is intended? Footnotes: [1] The comment "This only makes sense for mail groups." is now outdated, by the way. [2] I think this should be "^nntp\+.*:gmane\." since + and . are special characters. -- Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God." -- John 3:20-21 (NIV)