From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45559 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Christensen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Losing `expirable' marks in nnimap groups Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 13:07:32 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87bs9jwjor.fsf@uwo.ca> References: <877kk94kpj.fsf@uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1026069072 13583 127.0.0.1 (7 Jul 2002 19:11:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17RHR9-0003Ws-00 for ; Sun, 07 Jul 2002 21:11:11 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17RHQm-0005pq-00; Sun, 07 Jul 2002 14:10:48 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 07 Jul 2002 14:11:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from epithumia.math.uh.edu (epithumia.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19166 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:11:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by epithumia.math.uh.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) id g67JAb519800 for ding@hpc.uh.edu; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:10:37 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA19022 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:08:52 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 23150 invoked by alias); 7 Jul 2002 17:08:25 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 23145 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2002 17:08:25 -0000 Original-Received: from pony.its.uwo.ca (129.100.2.63) by gnus.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 2002 17:08:25 -0000 Original-Received: from femail.its.uwo.ca (hurdle.its.uwo.ca [129.100.2.108]) by pony.its.uwo.ca (8.12.1/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g67H8L8m000976 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ren.math.uwo.ca [129.100.75.76]) by femail.its.uwo.ca (8.12.1/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g67H8Ck6003879 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from jdc by localhost with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17RFVU-000349-00; Sun, 07 Jul 2002 13:07:32 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Sat, 06 Jul 2002 12:30:12 +0200") Original-Lines: 59 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45559 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45559 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simon Josefsson writes: > Dan Christensen writes: > >> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: >> >>> I enter a group, mark the last couple of messages as expirable, hit >>> M-g. The messages are back, not marked as expirable anymore. (They >>> are not marked as read, either.) >>> >>> Is anyone seeing this? >> >> Yes, I see it too, with: > > What's the *imap-log* output when this happen? Hmm, I can't reproduce this anymore. I may have been remembering wrong. Instead, let me mention some other things. 1) If I send one mail message to my imap account, Gnus will think there are three unread messages in my INBOX. In general, Gnus is off by a factor of three. A copy of the *imap-log* buffer is below. I wouldn't be surprised if this is something weird about the server I'm accessing. 2) I have two machines each running Gnus, and both access the imap server. If I delete articles in one copy of Gnus, then start the other copy, it thinks there are more unread articles than there really are. 3) Similar, if I mark articles as expirable on one machine, and then start Gnus on the other, it thinks the articles are just marked as read, not expired. Maybe this is just how nnimap works, but a quick glance through the documentation didn't find this. 4) The nnimap docs say: `nnimap-expunge-on-close' ... when you delete a article in Gnus (with `G DEL' or similar). Should that be `B DEL'? 5) The nnimap docs say: `nnimap-importantize-dormant' If non-nil, marks dormant articles as ticked (as well), for other IMAP clients. Within Gnus, dormant articles will naturally still (only) be marked as ticked.=20=20 ^^^^^^ ticked or dormant? Also, the docs should say what the default is. 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