From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39176 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Oort Gnus on emacs 20.7 a _lot_ faster than Gnus on XEmacs 21 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 00:14:53 +0200 Organization: Gnus Information Center Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87bsjkiffm.fsf@bang.priv.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174925 26496 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:35:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 19256 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2001 22:15:46 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2001 22:15:46 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15pzjA-0001sB-00; Sat, 06 Oct 2001 17:15:24 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 06 Oct 2001 17:15:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA14117 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 17:14:50 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 19233 invoked by alias); 6 Oct 2001 22:15:08 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 19228 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2001 22:15:08 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (195.204.10.139) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 Oct 2001 22:15:08 -0000 Original-Received: (from news@localhost) by quimby.gnus.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20681 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 00:14:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: c96s55h3.upc.chello.no Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1002406498 10515 213.46.211.96 (6 Oct 2001 22:14:58 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Oct 2001 22:14:58 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39176 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39176 Platform: P133MHz, 20MB RAM, debian woody, GNU emacs 20.7, XEmacs 21.4 Oort Gnus v0.04 (CVS update from yesterday) I recently started running Gnus on a fairly slow piece of computing machinery: a DEC HiNote Ultra II laptop, with a 133MHz Pentium processor, and 20MB of RAM. I'm running GNU Emacs and XEmacs directly from the consoles, since I have so far been unsuccessful in creating a working XF86Config-4 file. Since I have been using XEmacs for my Gnus'ing, I continued to do so on this laptop. My problem is that Gnus run too slowly to be usable in XEmacs on this machine. The least provocation (like eg. 5 keypresses in a row in the *Summary* buffer) sends XEmacs into garbage collection, where it stays for a minute, and if I wish to open a folder with 2000 unread, I might as well let it run overnight. GNU emacs, with the exact same Gnus, is fairly fast. It rarely enters garbage collection, and a folder with 2000 unread articles, opens in about 10 seconds. Is this kind of performance difference between GNU Emacs and XEmacs common? Or is this just very visible on a machine as slow as the one I'm using? Is the problem the lack of physical memory? Or is there something in the current CVS Gnus, something that provocates a lot of garbage collection in XEmacs?