From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35085 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Shutko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: why `system-name' is bad for Message-IDs (was Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:32:02 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87bsrmg9p9.fsf@wesley.springies.com> References: <20010223133030.B14991@mastaler.com> <2n3dd26bjw.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> <877l2e1wp6.fsf@wesley.springies.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170884 1108 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:28:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ED2D049D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:40:21 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAB29453; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:37:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:36:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22324 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:36:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mta2 (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E5CD049D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:36:59 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net (ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net [24.188.35.117]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0G9H00CVE1X8FS@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:36:55 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from ats@localhost) by ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f1SEamn04166; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:36:48 -0500 In-reply-to: Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.0.98 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 24 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35085 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35085 "Jason R. Mastaler" writes: > Alan Shutko writes: > > > What's wrong with system-name? > > For one, it encourages SPAM/UCE. 1. Deal with it. If your forwarding is such that people sending to message-ids at your domain gets to you, fix the forwarding. 2. Read the whole post. My question was in reference to having a variable to set the fqdn. I was wondering why system-name (a variable that already exists, which strangely enough does exactly that) isn't adequate. Personally, if you've got such a problem about having the host name in your message ids, you have the source. Fix it yourself rather than trying to convince other people that they should disregard the standard because it bothers you on your system. -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Everything bows to success, even grammar.