From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/32417 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Toby Speight Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus-undo-mode and nnimap Date: 13 Sep 2000 13:53:03 +0100 Organization: Citrix Systems Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87bsxso3m8.fsf@delivery.cam.eu.citrix.com> References: <8766o1rkgs.fsf@delivery.cam.eu.citrix.com> <87em2ppqbd.fsf@delivery.cam.eu.citrix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035168709 19731 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:51:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C39D051E for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAC08328; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:53:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:53:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00475 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:52:52 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from citrix-hq.citrix.com (unknown [12.8.192.29]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D8C2BD051E for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from [10.9.1.142] by citrix-hq.citrix.com via smtpd (for 71-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.71]) with SMTP; 13 Sep 2000 12:53:16 UT Original-Received: from 10.9.1.111 by hqvwall01.citrix.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:53:07 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Original-Received: by HQEXCHCON01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:10:17 -0400 Original-Received: from delivery.cam.eu.citrix.com ([10.70.128.47]) by hwexch01.ctxuk.citrix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id SZAKZCBY; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:53:03 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 X-Face: wqk-$Z5Z In article , 0> Simon Josefsson ("Simon") wrote: Simon> Toby Speight writes: >> ... if I tick an article and then undo it, it still appears as >> ticked. Though I haven't tried, I expect the same is true of other >> changes (ticked->dormant, perhaps?). Simon> No, only read-marks are undoable, other marks have never been Simon> undoable even in other backends. Ah. I didn't check this. Simon> Perhaps we should change this? Simon> Simon> It has some complications though. Should it be possible to Simon> undo a "Answered" flag? What would that mean? And if you undo Simon> a "dormant" flag, should you remove the article from the cache? Simon> What about "Saved" flags? "Downloadable" flags? "Bookmark" Simon> flags? "Expire" flags when using total/auto-expire? Simon> Simon> Perhaps we should only allow undo of tick flags. I think it would be nice (but not essential) to support as much as is meaningful ;-) The question of undoing cache entry for ticked/dormant (or, I guess, manually caching) is particularly tricky, given that it may be impossible to re-do (if the article has been expired in NNTP, or deleted from another client in IMAP). Undoing answers doesn't seem reasonable, given that there's no way to cancel mail messages - IMO the flag should reflect the state of the Real World. It does look like the undoability of flags and marks needs to be considered on a case-by-case basis :-(. As a start, I'd suggest all the marks in "Read Articles" and "Unread Articles" in the manual, and probably none of the ones in "Other Marks". Having nnimap consistent with the other backends is a Good Thing, of course, so I'm pleased with your patch :-).