From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2090 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2023 21:08:04 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Oct 2023 21:08:04 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsrIF-00GC6t-2D for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:07:59 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsrIF-008GDh-0a for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:07:59 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsrID-008GDa-23 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:07:57 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsrIC-00AGuL-1e for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:07:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=O2udLnhpREZW9iyxiHklPfkA+zP9JIklEIHAEe5f+pk=; b=dMCEFKlc8up4BWSMKiFW29OQMt w/CaQ1YWrjfHa4596DLOY0BrhIXJiPdEru87VpXny7DSFR3wq5I7X2tZpX9Oh37jw3jgye4JKasVs HGqNKJZqLG5KbbAX3wrTejLz+eC2LjajBTvUIuHTqq0j+HqzUB+iqsei9goXzqmdemL0=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qsrHu-00025Z-KM for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 23:07:41 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qsrHs-000Aa6-N2 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 23:07:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: Change default behavior of gnus-summary-pipe-output? Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:07:23 -0700 Message-ID: <87cyxdarg4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87lec1b2xx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87pm1d892a.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sdl9c81Vybkw0xe9kV+MCzHZU6k= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Eric S Fraga writes: > On Tuesday, 17 Oct 2023 at 09:59, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> 1. What do you think about changing the default behavior of the output >> to pipe command to use the raw article? > > I would have no problem with changing the default. I seldom use the > pipe command so I might not be the most appropriate person to vote on > this, mind you. All data is good data! >> 2. How many of you are aware of Gnus' symbolic prefixes, and make use of >> them? > > Not aware at all (and I'm not sure I understand the documentation on the > M-i key binding). I think the issue was that, for many Gnus commands, the numerical prefix is used up selecting a number of groups/articles from point. That means there's no good mechanism for doing what the prefix argument usually is for, which is "make this command behave a little differently". So the "symbolic prefix" is for that: in addition to putting in a numerical prefix, you can put in a symbolic prefix (one character) which can then make the command behave differently. I think in the rest of the Emacs world, packages with complex command invocation are resolving them with things like transient or hydra. But Gnus has always had its own thing (usually a decade before anyone else)! Eric