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[71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p16sm9446799qtq.24.2021.02.21.09.59.59 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 21 Feb 2021 09:59:59 -0800 (PST) From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Annoying issue with group not showing new messages References: <20210219120624.GA27346@camandro.org> <87pn0wkyqk.fsf@dick> <20210221173828.GA86830@camandro.org> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:59:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20210221173828.GA86830@camandro.org> (Luis Henriques's message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2021 17:38:28 +0000") Message-ID: <87czwtjo80.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk All good, sir, although I often wonder how non-lispers find their way to gnus, that most ornery of mail user agents, when so many less break-prone and befuddling systems exist. One might hypothesize that such users were "grandfathered-in" from the 90s when far fewer choices existed (and browser-based services like gmail had yet to invade the public consciousness). Still, even in the 90s, gnus would have to be considered a highly niche offering with respect to mailx, pine, elm, or even emacs-based RMAIL. I only took to gnus more recently because up until two years ago, I hardly knew any elisp and imo, a green belt in elisp is required to achieve a usable gnus setup.