From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 14360 invoked from network); 4 May 2020 15:11:14 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 May 2020 15:11:14 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jVck2-0006Sf-S3; Mon, 04 May 2020 10:10:46 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jVcjz-0006Q2-Kj for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 04 May 2020 10:10:43 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jVcjy-0005y4-93 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 04 May 2020 10:10:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=yWXjsQXrokAXhgOgS0Gq4bykqg9McHj4v7TC/OE4QMA=; b=OxjUy46MQNi2bsz3j74XFL1aPt gWIimkx+ErBH3CXYrNXnNXMzh9ehm/hy6K0eu0tZTmpDJ3pjn/5C31urzq9HTwQcZB6KYCKXzuGf8 Wqvf6BBF7tokeYdzZs7Tmc5KKmX71foovEXO7SfHFiiyaF+gFJ1xrPVojEob6c1wEKu0=; Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVcjr-0001Bf-40; Mon, 04 May 2020 17:10:37 +0200 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49G5rp45dCz1sB0B; Mon, 4 May 2020 17:10:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49G5rp2WtSz1qqlC; Mon, 4 May 2020 17:10:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wEo03MOFtVaL; Mon, 4 May 2020 17:10:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: voSdXA3oCSi/ePKnyoO1zlWqJlGuBwNB/cZS02cyE/jhtNA8jPFe+ZkKdLOgYqG1 Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-166-96.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.166.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 4 May 2020 17:10:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 097BD2C0B3F; Mon, 4 May 2020 17:10:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Robert Pluim Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Christian Barthel , ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: new wifi connection = nntp timeout = Emacs restart? References: <87sgh3coxn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87o8rogew7.fsf@barthel.ch> <87zhb7mlf0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a72t35ng.fsf@gnus.org> <87wo5wev3m.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878sic1w65.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2qcbp45.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lfm74zct.fsf@igel.home> <87h7wv4vl1.fsf@igel.home> X-Yow: This is a NO-FRILLS flight -- hold th' CANADIAN BACON!! Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 17:10:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 04 May 2020 16:46:41 +0200") Message-ID: <87d07j4txz.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-ID: Precedence: bulk On Mai 04 2020, Robert Pluim wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 04 May 2020 16:35:06 +0200, Andreas Schwab said: > > Andreas> On Mai 04 2020, Robert Pluim wrote: > >>>>>>> On Mon, 04 May 2020 15:13:38 +0200, Andreas Schwab said: > >> > Andreas> On Mai 04 2020, Robert Pluim wrote: > >> >> Also, I see this when coming out of sleep and connecting to the same > >> >> wifi network, with the same IP, and the same DNS server, which I guess > >> >> implicates Emacs more. > >> > Andreas> Perhaps you are just running into some conntrack timeout. > >> > >> On macOS? That would be an achievement :-) > > Andreas> conntrack is a network feature, nothing to do with any OS. > > Then I donʼt understand the point youʼre trying to make. When the timeout occurs, existing connections fail to work any more. Since this is an inactivity timeout, it perfectly fits your usecase. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."