From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RDNS_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 7452 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2020 16:58:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists1.math.uh.edu) (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTP; 20 Mar 2020 16:58:07 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jFKy0-0006br-UH; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:57:52 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jFKxx-0006Z7-IP for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:57:49 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jFKxw-0006wB-5E for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:57:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jFKxp-0000Qm-7f for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:57:44 +0100 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55651) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jFKxm-0002s0-TI; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:57:38 -0400 Received: from [2607:fea8:3fe0:17d::8] (port=39612 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jFKxm-0004LJ-05; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:57:38 -0400 From: Amin Bandali To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?= , ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Delayed messages, postponing Date: until sending by default? Organization: GNU References: <87v9n6pnb3.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <874kujrnot.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874kuj0yhz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:57:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874kuj0yhz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Message-ID: <87d0976k1r.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] List-ID: Precedence: bulk --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Adam Sj=C3=B8gren writes: >> >>> Recently I read a blog post about delayed messages in Gnus: >>> >>> =C2=B7 https://tech.toryanderson.com/2020/02/21/emacs-gnus-delay-sched= ule-email-sending/ >>> >>> And I could help myself nerdsplaining the configuration I use for >>> delayed messages. >>> >>> One of the things is: >>> >>> ; Remove date, so delayed messages (C-c C-j) don't get a date until >>> ; sent, from : >>> (setq message-draft-headers '(References From)) >> >> Huh, I didn't realize that the Date header was set as time-of-delay, not >> time-of-send. Confirming for myself by delaying this message by a day. >> No harm done, as it is totally useless! > > Huh, no kidding. I can't think of any reason we'd want to send delayed > messages out with the original Date header... +1; I think it would be a more sensible default to use the Date of send. I think it can be especially confusing for the receiver seeing a message dated, say, 1 day before, but only just appearing in their inbox. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEObM8jZRIDS3cwqSYi0Sgzce5VvIFAl509gAACgkQi0Sgzce5 VvJ3Tw/+J4zUcqCHukqdAykhDYmowdvgQ1l7pDmWwQgyLB2hvB1RXl/hufuxjFa/ BpcalVtz60+qYS2bZHjg62yiY3Zy86mYP2TVc/6pZfkzotdZWaZsvuD7781qz3AF Rllf592vlJ0qDwr8MMKCggoKyCz34ZPcb9QhFVzaV15KlMxQ30qOkOKboP4Qi73m 2+UWZpWstcocoWIPCOH+f2WejNXjYlXE/pPYQTmQAQ/I9QfU5qKAb9tYek1obkr+ v2oqhPa3JPs9IUtNHHTaVo8b48br9eAWyvJhxtWu5/Ldp7wiHo9NXu0SsVI4IY0L lo5pZ0qNkZ/obcgiGuXkvYy2j50odTHMzwQ8a5p6O8mSNn2/dr3E8uwAxqfefKvt PJBvaNSl5wgfYHG/RCMti0/2Yvvo1epQk0nWTO0b3cr3FswtbXAwM/WNdoNEsYIN OD2rJu94KfbkPCW+DLtX25f29Blb4gWRlk8rVzbCciGAHr8+DuvKIm9HDifa6HYw A9Qwkcs3u8kTb8uDHqMSbHsxVrHp5YNIU+Q3TNhA7t+Ff+B1MteeFcz7x2vHmt77 wSwYh79IW3aea7Y1LG/enLKU0ihqgCUvaqaWWh9Z+9rjw425eiFQVn5ouok/1Iq5 6AFC0JoDTHuCCcMniJt+vcEk0nWcpMozyA1lluCE1eftR+gSO+I= =JwH3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--