Re: just use "n" to the very end?

Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Eric S Fraga]

On Sunday, 20 Apr 2014 at 12:01, Sharon Kimble wrote:

[...]

> Unfortunately mine isn't working like that, you get the prompt, and a
> "double-n" just dumps you back at the "Group" message buffer, where you have
> to manually choose the next group to be read.

What is "n" bound to?  I.e. what does C-h c n tell you?  In my case,
it's bound to gnus-summary-next-unread-article.
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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Sharon Kimble]

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Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> On Sunday, 20 Apr 2014 at 12:01, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Unfortunately mine isn't working like that, you get the prompt, and a
>> "double-n" just dumps you back at the "Group" message buffer, where you have
>> to manually choose the next group to be read.
>
> What is "n" bound to?  I.e. what does C-h c n tell you?  In my case,
> it's bound to gnus-summary-next-unread-article.
Thanks for this, didn't see it until just now.

I've just checked and its bound to "n runs the command self-insert-command",
which is obviously why 'n' isn't working like it should. How then do I change
it?

Sharon.
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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Eric S Fraga]

On Wednesday, 23 Apr 2014 at 01:14, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> On Sunday, 20 Apr 2014 at 12:01, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Unfortunately mine isn't working like that, you get the prompt, and a
>>> "double-n" just dumps you back at the "Group" message buffer, where you have
>>> to manually choose the next group to be read.
>>
>> What is "n" bound to?  I.e. what does C-h c n tell you?  In my case,
>> it's bound to gnus-summary-next-unread-article.
> Thanks for this, didn't see it until just now.
>
> I've just checked and its bound to "n runs the command self-insert-command",
> which is obviously why 'n' isn't working like it should. How then do I change
> it?

What buffer were you in when you checked?  self-insert-command makes
sense for any editing buffer but not for gnus summary or article
buffers.

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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Sharon Kimble]

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Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> On Wednesday, 23 Apr 2014 at 01:14, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>
>>> On Sunday, 20 Apr 2014 at 12:01, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately mine isn't working like that, you get the prompt, and a
>>>> "double-n" just dumps you back at the "Group" message buffer, where you have
>>>> to manually choose the next group to be read.
>>>
>>> What is "n" bound to?  I.e. what does C-h c n tell you?  In my case,
>>> it's bound to gnus-summary-next-unread-article.
>> Thanks for this, didn't see it until just now.
>>
>> I've just checked and its bound to "n runs the command self-insert-command",
>> which is obviously why 'n' isn't working like it should. How then do I change
>> it?
>
> What buffer were you in when you checked?  self-insert-command makes
> sense for any editing buffer but not for gnus summary or article
> buffers.

I think that it was either scratch or message, so I'll try again. "n runs the
command gnus-summary-next-unread-article" from the summary buffer, and "n runs
the command gnus-article-read-summary-keys" from the article buffer, and "n
runs the command gnus-group-next-unread-group" from the group buffer. 

Is that right? I can "n" until the last message, and then a double "n" just
closes the buffer but does not progress to the next unread message in some
further group.

Sharon.
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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Adam Sjøgren]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:

> I can "n" until the last message, and then a double "n" just closes
> the buffer but does not progress to the next unread message in some
> further group.

When I type 'n' on the last article in a group, I get this question in
the minibuffer:

  No more unread articles (Type n for <THE NEXT GROUP WITH UNREAD ARTICLES> [X])

If there are no other groups with unread articles, I get:

  No more unread articles (Type n to exit <NAME OF CURRENT GROUP>)

What happens when you press 'n'?


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Sharon Kimble]

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asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:
>
>> I can "n" until the last message, and then a double "n" just closes
>> the buffer but does not progress to the next unread message in some
>> further group.
>
> When I type 'n' on the last article in a group, I get this question in
> the minibuffer:
>
>   No more unread articles (Type n for <THE NEXT GROUP WITH UNREAD ARTICLES> [X])
>
> If there are no other groups with unread articles, I get:
>
>   No more unread articles (Type n to exit <NAME OF CURRENT GROUP>)
>
> What happens when you press 'n'?
>
I get this -
╭────
│no more unread articles (Type n to exit nnml:obnam)
╰────
but no option to proceed to the next unread email/unread group.

But I don't get your message saying -
╭────
│No more unread articles (Type n for <THE NEXT GROUP WITH UNREAD ARTICLES> [X])
╰────

This is with these versions -
Gnus v5.13
GNU Emacs 24.4.50.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.12.0) of 2014-04-22 on
london

Sharon.
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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Adam Sjøgren]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:

> I get this -
> ╭────
> │no more unread articles (Type n to exit nnml:obnam)
> ╰────

Even when you have other groups with unread articles?

Are these groups located before or after the current group in your
*Group* buffer?

'n' will only jump to the next group, i.e. further down the *Group*
buffer, as far as I can tell.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Sharon Kimble]

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asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:
>
>> I get this -
>> ╭────
>> │no more unread articles (Type n to exit nnml:obnam)
>> ╰────
>
> Even when you have other groups with unread articles?
>
> Are these groups located before or after the current group in your
> *Group* buffer?
>
> 'n' will only jump to the next group, i.e. further down the *Group*
> buffer, as far as I can tell.
>
Yes, after. Just isn't working here :(

Sharon.
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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:

> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>
>> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:
>>
>>> I get this -
>>> ╭────
>>> │no more unread articles (Type n to exit nnml:obnam)
>>> ╰────
>>
>> Even when you have other groups with unread articles?
>>
>> Are these groups located before or after the current group in your
>> *Group* buffer?
>>
>> 'n' will only jump to the next group, i.e. further down the *Group*
>> buffer, as far as I can tell.
>>
> Yes, after. Just isn't working here :(
>
> Sharon.

gnus-auto-select-next is the variable that should control this -- what's
your value of that?

Eric

Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Sharon Kimble]

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Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:
>
>> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>>
>>> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> I get this -
>>>> ╭────
>>>> │no more unread articles (Type n to exit nnml:obnam)
>>>> ╰────
>>>
>>> Even when you have other groups with unread articles?
>>>
>>> Are these groups located before or after the current group in your
>>> *Group* buffer?
>>>
>>> 'n' will only jump to the next group, i.e. further down the *Group*
>>> buffer, as far as I can tell.
>>>
>> Yes, after. Just isn't working here :(
>>
>> Sharon.
>
> gnus-auto-select-next is the variable that should control this -- what's
> your value of that?
>
t, so after reading the blurb, I'll try it with 1

Sharon.
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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Sharon Kimble]

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Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:
>>
>>> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>>>
>>>> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I get this -
>>>>> ╭────
>>>>> │no more unread articles (Type n to exit nnml:obnam)
>>>>> ╰────
>>>>
>>>> Even when you have other groups with unread articles?
>>>>
>>>> Are these groups located before or after the current group in your
>>>> *Group* buffer?
>>>>
>>>> 'n' will only jump to the next group, i.e. further down the *Group*
>>>> buffer, as far as I can tell.
>>>>
>>> Yes, after. Just isn't working here :(
>>>
>>> Sharon.
>>
>> gnus-auto-select-next is the variable that should control this -- what's
>> your value of that?
>>
> t, so after reading the blurb, I'll try it with 1
>

I've set it to 'quietly', closed gnus, restarted emacs, restarted gnus, but
even with this in my 'custom.el'
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
 '(gnus-auto-select-next (quote quietly))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
it still doesn't seem to be working.

Sharon.
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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Adam Sjøgren]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

>> gnus-auto-select-next is the variable that should control this -- what's
>> your value of that?

> t, so after reading the blurb, I'll try it with 1

It is t in my setup as well, and it (still) works here.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: just use "n" to the very end?

[Eric Abrahamsen]

asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@talktalk.net> writes:
>
>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>>> gnus-auto-select-next is the variable that should control this -- what's
>>> your value of that?
>
>> t, so after reading the blurb, I'll try it with 1
>
> It is t in my setup as well, and it (still) works here.
>
>
>   Best regards,
>
>     Adam

Hmm, guess that's the wrong tree then, sorry...