From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83914 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Create a group from a list of message-ids Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:26:50 +0700 Message-ID: <87d2lo1ozp.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87vbzjs5fk.fsf@gmail.com> <844n71b5nh.fsf@davestoy.home> <871u24c18u.fsf@gmail.com> <87d2lo4zy7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87siukalp5.fsf@gmail.com> <87txf01uum.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87d2loa812.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385393158 2098 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2013 15:25:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:25:58 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M32169@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Nov 25 16:26:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vky2x-0005Zl-Ra for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:26:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Vky2T-0001Ys-3L; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:25:29 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Vky2Q-0001Ye-6M for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:25:26 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Vky2K-0005nY-M8 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:25:25 -0600 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.160.46]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vky2I-00042O-Px for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:25:19 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id md12so5962902pbc.33 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:25:12 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=0Hw6LFGEohQ7HP8j4O3tLga2wIZ90XbZcyUQRG98K0c=; b=VyV8I4PcSZeIbyXbnY5OxRHvqqcx2VSk3i2F3OSgYl2zlhi99mCv6c5TKCYKddb8n1 HXq4zyOYt4zLz3CkXdeDqUlOUzQVT4is1n3s5sRl3ueD+/w55pg/5Py+v30SGyewnPZU e45WdqnWMIfPw1r5gpEnC7Vye8fbC3LcSATa+m1uI+PixdOGNfEAisjR2Aiv56QmQ2wU AHdD/maieDlpR0SHxBFFOjs21ipW4Z+7mCqansLDcy6RjvRZxpfUZF1f75fEHtx1UZ+d 5/zZ/CToUajBOYpxOiiTHT2RYOU1O+QTS9knlnNia3BmzQJXDIRAT8tb6IqAr3QsoBhT oquw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQncMGUjms40Tf7uNF1t5YkX/5d4ZLrven6u94yQMk8In4SRcMpI/v3LZBkxDvbSnl0vnJMV X-Received: by 10.68.241.103 with SMTP id wh7mr893677pbc.204.1385393111761; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:25:11 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([223.204.249.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xs1sm83767966pac.7.2013.11.25.07.25.09 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:25:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87d2loa812.fsf@gmail.com> (Alexander Baier's message of "Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:08:25 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83914 Archived-At: On 11/25/13 21:08 PM, Alexander Baier wrote: > On 13-11-25 14:20 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> Alexander Baier writes: > > [...] > >>> >>> I did not yet give notmuch a look, could you point out what in your >>> opinion make notmuch more flexible than namazu? >> >> Hmm, I was afraid you'd ask that! :) >> >> As far as I can recall, the interface to namazu felt very slow, and the >> search syntax was much more awkward and limited than notmuch. Notmuch >> just feels easier to use: it caches recent queries, lets you filter >> previous queries more easily, and makes browsing the results quite easy >> -- it actually acts as its own little MUA, with threading and >> everything. (Actually that can be annoying when all you want is the >> original message.) Mairix can't do unicode indexing, so that was right >> out. >> > > This sounds very nice! You mention notmuch comes with its own > MUA. Although this might be usefull in a lot of situations, I am looking > for something that can integrate with gnus. This means I would like to > have something, that displays the search results as a group in gnus that > I can act upon like the other nnir backends. A search through the (gnus-) > manual didn't turn up anything about notmuch as a nnir backend. Is this > just something missing from the manual, or does a nnir notmuch backend > simply not exist? > > If there is no notmuch backend, how do you integrate notmuch into to > gnus? Or do you just use it outside gnus? It doesn't plug in to nnir, it has its own way of displaying search results (hence my statement that it's a bit of a MUA unto itself). If you're just looking to read/reply to messages, or save attachments, it works great. If you were hoping to do something else with the message, you'll want to use the "warp to original" snippet from here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/NotMuch It also comes with its own tagging structure and all kinds of stuff I don't use. The superfluity bugs me a little, but the searching is nice enough that it doesn't matter. A nnir plugin for notmuch might actually be nice. Give it a shot! >> >> Test-installing notmuch isn't too onerous (though the initial indexing >> is slow), it keeps all its business in one directory that you can nuke >> if you don't like it. It also ships with all the necessary elisp files. >> It's also under very active (borderline obsessive) development. >> > > An active project certainly is another nice point. All the other > alternatives seem rather inactive to me. (Well, except mu) > >> >> The notmuch developers paid me nothing for this message :) >> > > Well, even if they did, I am glad for every input I can get :) > >> >> Eric > > Regards, > -- > Alexander Baier