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[141.70.81.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a19sm50256137wib.1.2013.11.25.06.08.40 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 06:08:40 -0800 (PST) Mail-Followup-To: Eric Abrahamsen , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87txf01uum.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:20:17 +0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83913 Archived-At: On 13-11-25 14:20 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Alexander Baier writes: [...] >> >> I did not yet give notmuch a look, could you point out what in your >> opinion make notmuch more flexible than namazu? > > Hmm, I was afraid you'd ask that! :) > > As far as I can recall, the interface to namazu felt very slow, and the > search syntax was much more awkward and limited than notmuch. Notmuch > just feels easier to use: it caches recent queries, lets you filter > previous queries more easily, and makes browsing the results quite easy > -- it actually acts as its own little MUA, with threading and > everything. (Actually that can be annoying when all you want is the > original message.) Mairix can't do unicode indexing, so that was right > out. > This sounds very nice! You mention notmuch comes with its own MUA. Although this might be usefull in a lot of situations, I am looking for something that can integrate with gnus. This means I would like to have something, that displays the search results as a group in gnus that I can act upon like the other nnir backends. A search through the (gnus-) manual didn't turn up anything about notmuch as a nnir backend. Is this just something missing from the manual, or does a nnir notmuch backend simply not exist? If there is no notmuch backend, how do you integrate notmuch into to gnus? Or do you just use it outside gnus? > > Test-installing notmuch isn't too onerous (though the initial indexing > is slow), it keeps all its business in one directory that you can nuke > if you don't like it. It also ships with all the necessary elisp files. > It's also under very active (borderline obsessive) development. > An active project certainly is another nice point. All the other alternatives seem rather inactive to me. (Well, except mu) > > The notmuch developers paid me nothing for this message :) > Well, even if they did, I am glad for every input I can get :) > > Eric Regards, -- Alexander Baier