From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82245 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Summary line format and gnus-face-X Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:22:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87d320783z.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87d3393iud.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87mx15ifog.fsf@gnus.org> <87pq612cuj.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87sjawd3ak.fsf@gnus.org> <87r4qg1qmr.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1346862152 8649 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2012 16:22:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30513@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Sep 05 18:22:34 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T9IN5-0000sl-LW for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:22:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1T9IN1-0001hA-AH; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 11:22:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1T9IN0-0001gx-6n for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 11:22:26 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T9IMx-0003zp-1d for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 11:22:26 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9IMv-000859-JT for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:22:21 +0200 Original-Received: from ip-200-13-149-91.dialup.ice.net ([91.149.13.200] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9IMl-0000DH-KA; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:22:12 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Isotope 217's _The Unstable Molecule_ In-Reply-To: <87r4qg1qmr.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:27:56 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1T9IMl-0000DH-KA MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1347466932.36204@3sCE3MEeZIJU0kgCd3UJiw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:82245 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > That's nice for (2), but bad for (1). Now I can have > colorized/boldified subjects with proportional fonts, but my column > separators and stuff are also mangled which I don't want. The problem is really more practical than theoretical. Emacs doesn't provide "combining" faces when using text properties. You can put overlays over text (say, italic and then green), but you can't do that with text properties. So Gnus has the option of either overwriting your carefully chosen faces, or not touching them, and there isn't much of a third choice. Until Emacs implements combining `face' text properties, which is something that I really really really want to have. Overlays are yucky. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen