automatically set expiry mark

automatically set expiry mark

[Carson Chittom]

Dear Gnusians,

For various boring reasons I won't get into, sometimes I use Gnus (via
nnimap) to read my mail from our Exchange server, and sometimes I use
Outlook.  Outlook starts to slow down immensely if my Inbox gets too
large, so I regularly move old messages to an archive folder.

In my ~/.gnus.el, I've got 

;; Make expired messages go to Archive folder
(setq nnmail-expiry-target "nnimap+MSPB:Archive")

so I just manually mark older messages as expired.

What I'd like to do is automatically mark read messages in my Inbox as
expired, so I don't periodically have to go through and mark, say, a
hundred of them manually.  Is this possible?  I looked in the manual at
what seemed likely in the index, but nothing popped out at me.

Re: automatically set expiry mark

[Eric S Fraga]

Carson Chittom <carson.chittom@mspb.ms.gov> writes:

> Dear Gnusians,
>
> For various boring reasons I won't get into, sometimes I use Gnus (via
> nnimap) to read my mail from our Exchange server, and sometimes I use
> Outlook.  Outlook starts to slow down immensely if my Inbox gets too
> large, so I regularly move old messages to an archive folder.
>
> In my ~/.gnus.el, I've got 
>
> ;; Make expired messages go to Archive folder
> (setq nnmail-expiry-target "nnimap+MSPB:Archive")
>
> so I just manually mark older messages as expired.
>
> What I'd like to do is automatically mark read messages in my Inbox as
> expired, so I don't periodically have to go through and mark, say, a
> hundred of them manually.  Is this possible?  I looked in the manual at
> what seemed likely in the index, but nothing popped out at me.

If you type "G c" in the *Group* buffer for the Inbox group, you can
adjust settings to do what you want.  In particular, look for:

,----
| [X] Automatic Expire
|     All articles that are read will be marked as expirable.
| 
| [X] Expire Wait: [Value Menu] 14
|     When to expire. More
`----

(not contiguous in the buffer).

HTH,
eric

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.90.1 + No Gnus v0.18

Re: automatically set expiry mark

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>:

> ,----
> | [X] Automatic Expire
> |     All articles that are read will be marked as expirable.
> | 
> | [X] Expire Wait: [Value Menu] 14
> |     When to expire. More
> `----

Note: "Automatic Expire" and "Total Expire" (that I suggested) are two
different ways of achieving exipry of read articles.

With "Automatic Expire" the articles are marked as E when you read
them (I think...?  I've never tried it...).

With "Total Expire" read articles are marked as O, and when expiring all
articles marked O, are candidates for expiry.

Re: automatically set expiry mark

[Carson Chittom]

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> Carson Chittom <carson.chittom@mspb.ms.gov> writes:

>> What I'd like to do is automatically mark read messages in my Inbox as
>> expired, so I don't periodically have to go through and mark, say, a
>> hundred of them manually.  Is this possible?  I looked in the manual at
>> what seemed likely in the index, but nothing popped out at me.
>
> If you type "G c" in the *Group* buffer for the Inbox group, you can
> adjust settings to do what you want.  In particular, look for:
>
> ,----
> | [X] Automatic Expire
> |     All articles that are read will be marked as expirable.
> | 
> | [X] Expire Wait: [Value Menu] 14
> |     When to expire. More
> `----

Where is this saved if the interface is used?  I'd rather put it in with
all the rest of my Gnus configuration.  Am I reading the manual
correctly that this is equivalent to putting the following in ~/.gnus.el?

,-----
| (setq gnus-parameters
|       '(("nnimap+MSPB:Inbox"
|         (auto-expire . t)
|         (expiry-wait . 14))))        
`-----

As I read it, the difference between auto-expire and total-expire is
that the former only marks read articles as expirable (and they are then
expired according to expiry-wait or nnmail-expiry-wait), whereas the
latter immediately expires read articles (either deleting them, or if
set up, moving them to the place specified by expiry-target or
nnmail-expiry-target).  Is that correct?

Re: automatically set expiry mark

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Carson Chittom <carson.chittom@mspb.ms.gov>:

> Where is this saved if the interface is used?

In the group parameters of the group, in .newsrc.eld.

> I'd rather put it in with all the rest of my Gnus configuration.  Am I
> reading the manual correctly that this is equivalent to putting the
> following in ~/.gnus.el?

> ,-----
> | (setq gnus-parameters
> |       '(("nnimap+MSPB:Inbox"
> |         (auto-expire . t)
> |         (expiry-wait . 14))))        
> `-----

Can't say.  I don't use gnus-parameters myself.

> As I read it, the difference between auto-expire and total-expire is
> that the former only marks read articles as expirable (and they are
> then expired according to expiry-wait or nnmail-expiry-wait), whereas
> the latter immediately expires read articles (either deleting them, or
> if set up, moving them to the place specified by expiry-target or
> nnmail-expiry-target).  Is that correct?

Well, that's how I read the docs, as well.  I can vouch for that
total-expire works as you describe it.

Re: automatically set expiry mark

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Carson Chittom <carson.chittom@mspb.ms.gov>:

> In my ~/.gnus.el, I've got 

> ;; Make expired messages go to Archive folder
> (setq nnmail-expiry-target "nnimap+MSPB:Archive")

> so I just manually mark older messages as expired.

> What I'd like to do is automatically mark read messages in my Inbox as
> expired, so I don't periodically have to go through and mark, say, a
> hundred of them manually.  Is this possible? 

Yep.

> I looked in the manual at what seemed likely in the index, but nothing
> popped out at me.

total-expire is what you're looking for.

Here's what I've got in the group parameters of my inbox:
 (total-expire . t)
 (expiry-target . "nnimap+myserver:INBOX.archive")

Note: I haven't set expiry-target globally, because it seems like a
      group-specific property...