From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79090 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: problems with archive Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:57:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87d3ig2qcf.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308077941 1276 80.91.229.12 (14 Jun 2011 18:59:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:59:01 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M27389@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jun 14 20:58:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYpE-0002rn-KG for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:58:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYo6-0005Yp-ON; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:57:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYo5-0005Yf-2g for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:57:45 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYnz-0005gJ-Ns for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:57:44 -0500 Original-Received: from static.73.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.179.73]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYnw-0002PT-Un for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:57:37 +0200 Original-Received: from lee by yun.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYnw-0005ix-2m for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:57:36 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1847--5825h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1726--5444h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1658--5229h-0s--0d--H*u:linux, 0.000-1658--5229h-0s--0d--H*UA:linux, 0.000-1606--5065h-0s--0d--H*UA:gnu Spam tokens: 0.955-3915--1367h-50532s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.955-3--1h-37s--0d--UD:gnus.org, 0.924-229--189h-3999s--0d--H*r:sk:static., 0.878-1260--4051h-50812s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:quimby.gnus.org, 0.878-1260--4051h-50812s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org Autolearn status: no -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 2.0 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr 1) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79090 Archived-At: Hi, my attempt to have all outgoing messages archived by default have lead to having all mail groups listed doubly in my group viev like: 1 : mail.lists.ding.gnus.org * : nnfolder+archive:mail.lists.ding.gnus.org Trying to enter the nnfolder gives the error message: ,---- | gnus-select-newsgroup: Couldn't activate group | nnfolder+archive:mail.lists.ding.gnus.org: Empty group: | mail.lists.ding.gnus.org `---- When I go into the server view, there appears to be for every mail group I have another server entry: ,---- | {nnfolder:archive} (opened) | {nndoc:gnus-help} (opened) | {nnfolder:archive+nnfolder+archive:mail.lists.mutt-users} (opened) | {nnfolder:archive+nnfolder+archive:mail.lists.courier-users} (opened) | {nnfolder:archive+nnfolder+archive:mail.lists.exim-users} (opened) | {nnfolder:archive+nnfolder+archive:mail.lists.debian-isp} (opened) | {nnfolder:archive+nnfolder+archive:mail.lists.debian-enterprise} (op= ened) | {nnfolder:archive+nnfolder+archive:mail.lists.courier-imap} (opened) | [...] `---- These entries have been created automatically. This seems to be badly messed up now. How can I fix this? When killing the {nnfolder:archive} server entry, I=C2=B4m asked if I want = to kill all it=C2=B4s groups along with it. I did that two times or so now and found that after answering yes, all my all email was gone. I had to edit the active file to be able to access it again. I take it I was lucky that the emails weren=C2=B4t actually deleted, and now I=C2=B4m worried tha= t they eventually might be expired. Is there a way to automatically regenerate the active file? Searching for expire marks finds: ,---- | lee@yun:~/Mail$ find . -name .marks |xargs grep -i expire | ./mail/0-incoming/.marks:((expire 3 5 15 17 (24 . 25) 28) (read (1 . 42) = (44 . 129) (131 . 133) 137 (139 . 147) (149 . 307) (309 . 331))) | lee@yun:~/Mail$=20 `---- Is there any other place where expiry information is kept? What about the "read" marks? Is it normal for them to include articles that don=C2=B4t exist anymore? If not, could I just remove all ".marks" files? ATM, losing the marks won=C2=B4t hurt.