* scroll bar does not indicate entire article is visible
@ 2011-02-17 23:40 jidanni
2011-02-17 23:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2011-02-17 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Gentlemen, I'm sure you will observe that even with this short message
on your large screen, the scroll bar does not completely run the length
of the *Article* buffer, despite (info "(emacs) Scroll Bars") saying
"The scroll bar's inner box is drawn to represent the portion of the
buffer currently displayed, with the entire height of the scroll bar
representing the entire length of the buffer." Disturbing indeed, and
perhaps reflecting a deeper bug in current emacs too. Sure there are
other ways to tell if one is looking at all of something, but those
scroll bars need to be fixed.
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of
2011-02-10 on keller, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package,
version 1:20110210-1) Windowing system distributor `The X.Org
Foundation', version 11.0.10904000 configured using `configure
'--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr'
'--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib'
'--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info'
'--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes'
'--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp'
'--without-compress-info' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk'
'--with-imagemagick=yes' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu'
'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN
-DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed'
'CPPFLAGS=''
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* Re: scroll bar does not indicate entire article is visible
2011-02-17 23:40 scroll bar does not indicate entire article is visible jidanni
@ 2011-02-17 23:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-18 8:02 ` Tassilo Horn
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-02-17 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
> Disturbing indeed, and perhaps reflecting a deeper bug in current
> emacs too.
It's an Emacs bug with some toolkits. I think there's an open bug for
it somewhere.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: scroll bar does not indicate entire article is visible
2011-02-17 23:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-02-18 8:02 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-02-19 11:48 ` Jim Meyering
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2011-02-18 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> Disturbing indeed, and perhaps reflecting a deeper bug in current
>> emacs too.
>
> It's an Emacs bug with some toolkits. I think there's an open bug for
> it somewhere.
I think it's a long-standing GTK bug nobody wants to fix. But the GTK
toolbars are far less usable than the usual X toolbars anyway, so I
compile my emacs using --with-x-toolkit=gtk but
--without-toolkit-scrollbars.
Bye,
Tassilo
--
Sent from my Emacs
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* Re: scroll bar does not indicate entire article is visible
2011-02-18 8:02 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2011-02-19 11:48 ` Jim Meyering
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jim Meyering @ 2011-02-19 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: ding
Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>>> Disturbing indeed, and perhaps reflecting a deeper bug in current
>>> emacs too.
>>
>> It's an Emacs bug with some toolkits. I think there's an open bug for
>> it somewhere.
>
> I think it's a long-standing GTK bug nobody wants to fix. But the GTK
> toolbars are far less usable than the usual X toolbars anyway, so I
> compile my emacs using --with-x-toolkit=gtk but
> --without-toolkit-scrollbars.
Thanks for the tip. I've just rebuilt emacs with that
(though note it's spelled "scroll-bars", not "scrollbars")
--with-x-toolkit=gtk --without-toolkit-scroll-bars
and do appreciate the fidelity of the resulting X scrollbars,
but if I stick with this, I'll have to get used to the different
way the scrollbar responds to left and middle-mouse operations
(or maybe configure to suit). Another drawback of the X scrollbars:
needs to have its color configured to be as unobtrusive as the gtk one.
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