From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76316 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Position of point in reply-with-original Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:47:16 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87d3n8loqz.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87tyglxjja.fsf@gmail.com> <87r5bpgk6p.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k4hhniw6.fsf@gmail.com> <87ipx1yqhz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87pqr8946o.fsf@gmail.com> <87pqr8py5g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ipx07nws.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296773265 22454 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2011 22:47:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:47:45 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M24669@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Feb 03 23:47:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7xi-0001DD-PE for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:47:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7xa-00070v-CD; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:47:30 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7xZ-00070n-DE for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:47:29 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7xY-0002Fz-MQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:47:29 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7xX-0001dx-UP for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:47:27 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7xX-00016m-Du for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:47:27 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:47:27 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:47:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tLPw0HHD8Xzc18hFTukamV9rk2c= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76316 Archived-At: On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:29:07 +0100 Antoine Levitt wrote: AL> Therefore, I'm proposing this simple patch. It keeps the "it's evil" bit AL> in the docstring, it just doesn't make the variable impossible to use. I agree with the defvar -> defcustom change. I think the top-posting setup should be a little more involved, mirroring Outlook somewhat. This is what I use (I got help from the Gnus mailing list when I set it up): ;; outlooky (defun sc-style-outlook () (interactive) (setq message-cite-function 'message-cite-original message-citation-line-function 'message-insert-formatted-citation-line message-cite-reply-above 'is-evil message-yank-prefix "" message-yank-cited-prefix "" message-yank-empty-prefix "" message-citation-line-format "\n\n-----------------------\nOn %a, %b %d %Y, %N wrote:\n")) I use this at work by necessity. Ted