From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/70863 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: That newfangled IMAP thing... Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:46:24 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87d3sgaz1r.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87bp84y00w.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <878w35ex1q.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87aanlde64.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sk1dz236.fsf@uwo.ca> <87tylscph8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87tylsb0a8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87occ0i05z.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284493817 19497 80.91.229.12 (14 Sep 2010 19:50:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:50:17 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M19236@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Sep 14 21:50:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvbWA-00008F-Vj for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:50:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OvbW7-000716-UG; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:50:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OvbW6-00070x-S0 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:50:10 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OvbW5-0004DA-UI for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:50:10 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OvbW5-0004kT-00 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:50:09 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvbW2-0008VH-PU for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:50:06 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:50:06 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:50:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ajeykKQ//iC5SfZduTqQhxTbPWE= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:70863 Archived-At: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:40:24 +0200 Julien Danjou wrote: JD> On Tue, Sep 14 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> Perhaps it would suffice to ask one group once. Is it likely that one >> group would support "*" PERMANENTFLAGS, but other groups don't? In >> other words, is this (in real life) something that is a server-wide >> capability, really, and not a mailbox parameter? JD> You can have different mailboxes type on a IMAP server. For example, you JD> can have public mailboxes that you can only read but cannot write into, JD> or a shared mailbox where you can also do only some things your JD> co-worker give you the rights to do via some ACL. JD> So possibly some mailboxes won't have PERMANENTFLAGS. JD> Dovecot has some capabilities to make such setup with different JD> namespaces and all. I'm rather sure it still *can* allow PERMANENTFLAGS JD> almost everywhere (public, shared, private mailboxes), but well, in JD> theory you can't be sure. I think that's over-engineering. Do a SELECT on INBOX and be done. If we find edge cases we'll fix them, but it's not worth complicating everyone's life for that extremely rare situation. Ted