From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35679 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Walters Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Quimby Upgrade Date: 07 Apr 2001 20:19:02 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science Sender: walters@verbum.org Message-ID: <87d7aonszt.church.of.emacs@meta.verbum.org> References: <20010405111030.D51587@kens.com> <20010405173741.C5787@orakel.ntnu.no> <871yr4mhye.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171384 4404 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 24699 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 2001 00:20:52 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24694 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2001 00:20:52 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (HELO cis.ohio-state.edu) (root@164.107.115.5) by gnus.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 2001 00:20:52 -0000 Original-Received: from verbum.org (root@gold.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.112.16]) by cis.ohio-state.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25102 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from meta.verbum.org (meta.verbum.org [192.168.5.76]) by verbum.org (Postfix (Debian/GNU)) with ESMTP id 3B5386F69 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by meta.verbum.org (Postfix (Debian/GNU), from userid 1000) id 9E25710335; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Colin X-Face: %'w-_>8Mj2_'=;I$myE#]G"'D>x3CY_rk,K06:mXFUvWy>;3I"BW3_-MAiUby{O(mn"wV@m dd`)Vk[27^^Sa (Arcady Genkin's message of "07 Apr 2001 19:02:49 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.101 Original-Lines: 25 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35679 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35679 Arcady Genkin writes: > I'll challenge that 'up-to-date'. If you run potato (which I do on > my workstation), you'll be stuck with old versions of everythig > ((x)emacs including), unless you want to compile from sources (which > I do). Of course, you can try compiling a source package from > unstable, but that only works 50% of the time without having to > upgrade `debhelper' and half of the system (including Perl). Well, this is simply a tradeoff. One of the advantages of Debian style freeze-release cycles is that everything has been very well tested and integrated. You should never really have to install incompatible versions of libraries, or for example. But on the other hand, it does mean that some of the software is pretty old. But, one can't have everything... Personally, I just use Debian stable for servers, and unstable for my desktops, and it works pretty well. Not that unstable can't be a bit *too* bleeding edge sometimes...anyone using potato when it was unstable remember the broken makedev package that caused all of one's devices in /dev to disappear? That was fun...