Archiving Outgoing Messages

Archiving Outgoing Messages

[Samuel Padgett]

I currently use the following for sent mail:

(setq gnus-message-archive-group
      '((concat "nnml:mail.sent." (downcase (format-time-string "%b-%Y")))))

The only sticky part is if the archive group does not exist, Gnus does
not create it.  Any way to force Gnus to create the group specified in
the Gcc header in this case?

Also, the manual hints that nnfolder is the preferable backend for
message archive groups.  Why is this?  Is there something special
about sent messages that makes nnfolder better than, say, nnml?

Thanks!

Sam
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Re: Archiving Outgoing Messages

[Samuel Padgett]

Samuel Padgett <res00ajf@gte.net> writes:

> The only sticky part is if the archive group does not exist, Gnus does
> not create it.

I have to apologize.  I spoke too soon.  I simply needed to type `F'.

Sam
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It usually takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech.
                                                        -- Mark Twain

Re: Archiving Outgoing Messages

[Kai Großjohann]

On 11 Feb 2001, Samuel Padgett wrote:

> Also, the manual hints that nnfolder is the preferable backend for
> message archive groups.  Why is this?  Is there something special
> about sent messages that makes nnfolder better than, say, nnml?

Actually, I have no idea why gnus-message-archive-method defaults to
nnfolder.  I don't understand why people would want to archive their
outgoing messages in a different server than the normal messages.

Can anyone explain?

kai
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Re: Archiving Outgoing Messages

[Daniel Pittman]

On 12 Feb 2001, Kai Großjohann wrote:
> On 11 Feb 2001, Samuel Padgett wrote:
> 
>> Also, the manual hints that nnfolder is the preferable backend for
>> message archive groups.  Why is this?  Is there something special
>> about sent messages that makes nnfolder better than, say, nnml?
> 
> Actually, I have no idea why gnus-message-archive-method defaults to
> nnfolder.  I don't understand why people would want to archive their
> outgoing messages in a different server than the normal messages.
> 
> Can anyone explain?

Personally, I use nnfolder for two reasons:

1. It does not pollute the namespace of my mail folders with archive
   mailboxes.

2. nnfolder uses *far* less inodes than nnmail. Since I have a lot of
   mail but don't access my archives often, I prefer the slower but less
   disk-intensive nnfolder for the mail.

        Daniel

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in proportion to their readiness to doubt.
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Re: Archiving outgoing messages

[Kai Großjohann]

Nicolas KOWALSKI <Nicolas.Kowalski@imag.fr> writes:

> Is there a way to tell Gnus to use this ruleset for archiving outgoing
> mails ? If not, how can I achieve the same behaviour ?

One way to use the ruleset for outgoing messages is to use Fcc to
write outgoing mails into a file, then use a `file' mail-sources entry
to fetch the mail from there.

But I suggest to set the gcc-self parameter on the groups where
outgoing mail should go.  This means that, when you are in the group
and hit m or r, a Gcc header pointing to that group is automatically
inserted.  From the Group buffer, you can use `C-u m' and `C-u a', so
that you don't have to enter the group explicitly.

kai
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Archiving outgoing messages

[Nicolas KOWALSKI]

Hello.

My current configuration for archiving outgoing mail/news is the
following : 

(setq
 gnus-message-archive-group "mail.sent"
 gnus-message-archive-method '(nnml ""))


I have also defined a `nnmail-split-fancy' ruleset for incoming mails.

Is there a way to tell Gnus to use this ruleset for archiving outgoing
mails ? If not, how can I achieve the same behaviour ?

Thanks in advance.
Nicolas.