Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

Hello,

I recently setup gnus to retrieve news and mailing lists through gmane/gwene, while news and mailing list are retrieved fine, I cannot write to newsgroups like gnus.general or gnus.user. I get the message compose buffer but on doing `C-c`, I get "Read-only server" error. Can you help with that?

Regards,
-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Dilip]

Hi,

Welcome to gnus!


Is it only happening with 'gnus', those two groups?

-- 
Best,
Dilip

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

Hello, Dilip

> Is it only happening with 'gnus', those two groups?

I haven’t tried with others, but I think it would be the same with other groups as well.

Regards,
-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

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I tried it with gmane.discuss and it results in the same error. I’ve attached a screenshot of the message buffer, let me know if I’m doing anything wrong.

Regards,

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-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

Do I need to add some email to cc for it to pick it up? Currently as I’m responding in this mailing list, I emailed directly to ding@gnus.org and it picked it up. Do I need to add something like this all the time?

I thought gnus.general is primarily an NNTP service, right? I might be confused here, so any elaboration would be of help. My primary error of "Read-only server" only happens when I compose message using `a` key-binding, and then sending to a gmane newsgroup that I’ve subscribed to.

Regards,
-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Adam Sjøgren]

Divya writes:

> I tried it with gmane.discuss and it results in the same error. I’ve
> attached a screenshot of the message buffer, let me know if I’m doing
> anything wrong.

Maybe try just:

  Newsgroups: gmane.test

without all the prefix stuff.


Wait, how did you add news.gmane.io to your setup, in
gnus-secondary-methods, or in some other way?


  Best regards,

    Adam

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 "I need someone to believe in me                           Adam Sjøgren
  I need someone to throw blue sky at me"              asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

Hello Adam,

>   Newsgroups: gmane.test
>
> without all the prefix stuff.

Tried it with just gmane.test, has the same issue. Screenshot attached.

> Wait, how did you add news.gmane.io to your setup, in
> gnus-secondary-methods, or in some other way?

Here’s my relevant configuration of ~/.gnus.el:

```
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnimap "divya-autistici"
					      (nnimap-address "mail.autistici.org") ;; Replace with your IMAP server
					      (nnimap-server-port 993)
					      (nnimap-stream ssl))

				      (nntp "news.gwene.org")
				      (nntp "news.gmane.io")
				      (nntp "feedbase"
					    (nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-tls-stream)
					    (nntp-address "feedbase.org")
					    (nntp-port-number 563))))
```

Regards,
-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

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Forgot to attach screenshot.

Regards,

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-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Adam Sjøgren]

Divya writes:

> Forgot to attach screenshot.

The screenshot shows that it tries to send the article using nnnil,
which I guess is your gnus-select-method (also how I configure Gnus) -
this supports the theory that Gnus doesn't know the right server to
send via.

I think entering the newsgroup before starting your new article will
make that go away.


  Best regards,

    Adam

-- 
 "It isn't modern just because it's electric.               Adam Sjøgren
  Country music was electric too."                     asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Adam Sjøgren]

Divya writes:

>> Wait, how did you add news.gmane.io to your setup, in
>> gnus-secondary-methods, or in some other way?
>
> Here’s my relevant configuration of ~/.gnus.el:

Ok, that looks fine to me.

Did you try entering the group before pressing 'a'?


  Best regards,

    Adam

-- 
 "I har jo brug for en mand til at samle det hele -         Adam Sjøgren
  inden I går endnu mere i opløsning!"                 asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

> Ok, that looks fine to me.
>
> Did you try entering the group before pressing 'a'?
Tried this, and this time I didn’t get the read-only error. But I don’t see it in gmane.test on updating it. Does it usually take time?

This is what I see in *Messages* buffer:

Saving file /home/divya/Mail/archive/sent/2024-10...
Wrote /home/divya/Mail/archive/sent/2024-10

Regards,
-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

> Saving file /home/divya/Mail/archive/sent/2024-10...
> Wrote /home/divya/Mail/archive/sent/2024-10

Okay, authorization was required, did it and seems like it’s working.

Thanks a lot Adam. I should’ve tried it from whithin the newsgroup.

Regards,
-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Adam Sjøgren]

Divya writes:

> Thanks a lot Adam. I should’ve tried it from whithin the newsgroup.

Happy to hear you got it working!


  Best regards,

    Adam

-- 
 "I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly         Adam Sjøgren
  useless information."                                asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Adam Sjøgren]

Divya writes:

> I don’t see it in gmane.test on updating it. Does it usually take
> time?

Yes, every post on Gmane goes through the corresponding mailing list
before appearing in the newsgroup.

I see two posts in gmane.test from you now.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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 "I got into the driver's seat                              Adam Sjøgren
  And I drove down 42nd Street                         asjo@koldfront.dk
  In my Cadillac
  Good car to drive after a war"

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[dick]

*I do not understand this gesture of forking and saying rudely that...*

At your rate of progress, emacs will get a non-blocking fetch long after
manual programming becomes obsolete.

I'd stick with philosophy.  I suspect your maths is also nonexistent
to bad.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[Divya Ranjan]

dick <dick.r.chiang@gmail.com> writes:

> *I do not understand this gesture of forking and saying rudely that...*
>
> At your rate of progress, emacs will get a non-blocking fetch long after
> manual programming becomes obsolete.

Not sure what you’re trying to say with this. Instead of getting offended on an observation that I--as an outsider--made, if you are really worried about having Emacs get a non-blocking fetch process, why be so obnoxious? You already have your patches, the maintainers asked you to fragment it into little pieces so that the merge can be doable. Either you don’t want Emacs to have that feature, or you want to do it your “own way”, which is fine but I have no idea why you’d speak rudely of the Emacs folks since they’ve done nothing but try and work with you?

> I'd stick with philosophy.  I suspect your maths is also nonexistent
> to bad.
Only if, mathematics is my primary background. Since this is not a math forum, I’d not escalate this offensive remark any further but if you do wanna discuss Clifford algebras sometime, I’m a mail away ;)

Regards,
-- 
Divya Ranjan,
Philosophy, Mathematics, Libre Software.

Re: Sending messages to newsgroups/mailing lists through gmane

[NNTP Surfer]

Divya Ranjan <divya@subvertising.org> writes:

> gmane/gwene, while news and mailing list are retrieved fine, I cannot
> write to newsgroups like gnus.general or gnus.user. I get the message
> compose buffer but on doing `C-c`, I get "Read-only server" error.

It was long time ago when I last configured this but I think you need
capability to send emails. make sure you have set up variables:

#begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq user-mail-address "email-address"
	  user-full-name "username"
	  message-user-fqdn "some id"
	  smtpmail-smtp-server "server url"
	  smtpmail-smtp-service 465
	  smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl)
#end_src