Finding to which server a group belongs

Finding to which server a group belongs

[Bob Newell]

Aloha everyone,

I have a problem that puzzles me and I hope there is a simple
answer that I've overlooked.

Okay, I'm in a group summary buffer, say INBOX.  I poll
several IMAP servers.  I want to know from which server this
group was populated.

It's sometime possible to figure it out from the variable
gnus-summary-buffer, but not always; for instance
nnimap+fastmail:Archive is easy but INBOX is not, especially
as several servers provide INBOX with no further clues in the
name.

So how do I programmatically determine the 'parent' server of
the group?

Mahalo in advance for any ideas,

-- 
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i

- Via GNU-Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB

Re: Finding to which server a group belongs

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 25 September 2024 08:54 Bob Newell, wrote:

> Aloha everyone,
>
> I have a problem that puzzles me and I hope there is a simple
> answer that I've overlooked.
>
> Okay, I'm in a group summary buffer, say INBOX.  I poll
> several IMAP servers.  I want to know from which server this
> group was populated.
>
> It's sometime possible to figure it out from the variable
> gnus-summary-buffer, but not always; for instance
> nnimap+fastmail:Archive is easy but INBOX is not, especially
> as several servers provide INBOX with no further clues in the
> name.
>
> So how do I programmatically determine the 'parent' server of
> the group?
>
> Mahalo in advance for any ideas,

I guess you don't want to browse the *server buffer*, but want to see
this instantly. Perhaps you can tweak gnus-group-line-format ?

the default has a (%g%) which will make gnus display the Qualified group
name. It will add nnimap+server to your INBOX.

Re: Finding to which server a group belongs

[Björn Bidar]

Bob Newell <bobnewell@bobnewell.net> writes:

> Aloha everyone,
>
> I have a problem that puzzles me and I hope there is a simple
> answer that I've overlooked.
>
> Okay, I'm in a group summary buffer, say INBOX.  I poll
> several IMAP servers.  I want to know from which server this
> group was populated.
>
> It's sometime possible to figure it out from the variable
> gnus-summary-buffer, but not always; for instance
> nnimap+fastmail:Archive is easy but INBOX is not, especially
> as several servers provide INBOX with no further clues in the
> name.

Hm for me the INBOX Group is tied the select method and thus the server
is belongs to.


For me the group is called nnimap+selectMethod:INBOX.

Re: Finding to which server a group belongs

[Bob Newell]

> For me the group is called nnimap+selectMethod:INBOX.

This is true for many but not all, notably gmail for which
it's just INBOX.  (It may be something is wrong with my setup
but I've seen other discussion online of this very thing.)

However I do have a (terrible) workaround.  Since the problem
is only with gmail, when I find INBOX with no selectmethod
identifier, I just assume the server is imap.gmail.com.  This
works for my use case but it's hardly to be recommended in
general.

In any event thanks for the replies.

-- 
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i

- Via GNU-Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB

Re: Finding to which server a group belongs

[Adam Sjøgren]

Bob writes:

>> For me the group is called nnimap+selectMethod:INBOX.
>
> This is true for many but not all, notably gmail for which
> it's just INBOX.

Do you, by any chance, have gmail configured as your primary select
method?


  Best regards,

    Adam

-- 
 "Tonight there's a glimmershow                             Adam Sjøgren
  Tonight there's a golden globe"                      asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Finding to which server a group belongs

[Bob Newell]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2024, at 6:32 PM, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> Bob writes:
>
>>> For me the group is called nnimap+selectMethod:INBOX.
>>
>> This is true for many but not all, notably gmail for which
>> it's just INBOX.
>
> Do you, by any chance, have gmail configured as your primary select
> method?

Yes, gmail primary, fastmail secondary but I'm reversing those soon.

Re: Finding to which server a group belongs

[Adam Sjøgren]

Bob writes:

> Yes, gmail primary, fastmail secondary but I'm reversing those soon.

One of the peculiarities of the primary method is that the server name
isn't shown, I think that's why you just get the mailbox name.

I recommend configuring all your servers as secondary methods and
setting the primary method to nnnil:

    (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil))

The split between primary method and secondary methods is more
confusing than helpful these days, I think.


  Best regards,

    Adam

-- 
 "This cyber parachute jumper has now reached the           Adam Sjøgren
  ground"                                              asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Finding to which server a group belongs

[Bob Newell]

Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes:

> I recommend configuring all your servers as secondary methods and
> setting the primary method to nnnil:
>
>     (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil))

An excellent idea, thanks, I will try this.

Meanwhile I did come up with this, which is promising:

(gnus-group-server (format "%s" gnus-summary-buffer))

-- 
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i

- Via GNU-Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB