From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 16635 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2022 00:04:17 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jan 2022 00:04:17 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDbDz-004S4P-OZ for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:04:15 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDbDz-003f0w-6P for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:04:15 -0600 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDbDw-003f0n-R4 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:04:12 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDbDr-004S3s-T6 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:04:12 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References :Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Q+cjsXGzRTWttTKyW3WRLlK7Zlisk+cUKJ6xi3PESoI=; b=ZBPqSdDpblF74CmvQg0hbeNXtR vAvXoT/fnb9ivyEsD+hRO0hEMfyctfDcez6SOX38zQTqvpt7N4qutm9/VBOFT3q4bculL9VmcvPSJ y+jeuiQc45Z8/UX1SQqdennuXxFn/zUIqUZLGzTOnn+w0gexO2Mj/u7zc4yU5HtKjgGk=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nDbDj-0008W6-JU for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 01:04:02 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nDbDh-00023I-99 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 01:03:57 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org To: ding@gnus.org From: Emanuel Berg Subject: Re: how to kill a virtual group Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 01:03:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87ee4rflwa.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87a6ffx5jg.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <874k5nokor.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18ro9py.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87czkbmrgf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mpgz3pi7MkxqROU9IDtrHERNjFo= Mail-Copies-To: never List-ID: Precedence: bulk Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> Precisely this is the error I see! [1] > > Okay, this is something I've looked at several times over > the past couple years. I am not sure how to fix it mostly > because I don't understand the original intended behavior of > variables like `gnus-server-alist' and > `gnus-inserted-opened-servers'. `gnus-server-alist' has the docstring Servers created by Gnus, or via the server buffer. Servers defined in the user's config files do not appear here. This variable is persisted in the user’s .newsrc.eld file. I don't like the "servers defined in the user's config files do not appear here" part, exceptions like that are a bad sign, but as for what the variable expresses, it's clear what data it holds. `gnus-inserted-opened-servers' OTOH isn't documented. It is defined in gnus-srvr.el where it is then used four times. gnus-server-alist is used a lot tho, in several files. I think the "original intended behavior" is simply that it is used whenever it is needed :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal