From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86455 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jay Belanger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.sxemacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Moving Gnus development to Emacs? Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 13:05:00 -0600 Message-ID: <87ege3sqoz.fsf@gmail.com> References: Reply-To: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451502321 21002 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2015 19:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , sxemacs-devel@sxemacs.org, ding@gnus.org To: raman Original-X-From: sxemacs-devel-bounces@lists.sxemacs.org Wed Dec 30 20:05:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gesd-sxemacs-devel-2@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from zapata.dreamhost.com ([66.33.216.56]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aEM3X-0001fp-Qh for gesd-sxemacs-devel-2@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 20:05:08 +0100 Original-Received: from zapata.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapata.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECC08DB0430; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:05 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from homiemail-mx8.g.dreamhost.com (mx2.sub3.homie.mail.dreamhost.com [69.163.253.9]) by zapata.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217178DB0430 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from alc-junkmail-backend3.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdcbae.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.104]) by homiemail-mx8.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18A6A01B5 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alc-junkmail-backend3.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97BD1616358 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:03 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-DH-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at alc-junkmail-backend3.dreamhost.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "Cc" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.011 tagged_above=-999 required=999 tests=[FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] Original-Received: from terminator.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.17]) by localhost (alc-junkmail-backend3.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.104]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id npx3oabIjFPh for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f50.google.com (mail-oi0-f50.google.com [209.85.218.50]) by terminator.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E63B2964007 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id o124so206146396oia.1 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:cc:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=eLq3zDnt+b6uBYr/rlvjsTZBN8CCdY8Vwh+kFw7wP/c=; b=xS61+a5wc8EKz2In/1IuWlD++urklHtY+Y8HGvlKRRRm1V4ygjjlzwW5+Ufiu9MCXp H/uJH8vc+UkDgUZXlyC+wRdSl/+1Avt5OEeRyKRy2ZvBkRSLKJQYWqRpd9iK8hwdOf2S LcknkK4fgip9QlpghBm76M+g1pATGkjyeS7j2MKMZl6k1cEKJGse0cAqpcqU1Q+zJTdd jm/BjcCZ+4V8W1sR+D6OudFOBqrLAlKGm6uAHEy3n3jqtfmWQyJW9ra5jw+4zpa0cQp/ En0lCy4T39ksvB3rQ0E7pyfadNwPBDreqLInB8sJzwCWhsyc5OCQW1KRE6dwMC7ZOVVx w1rg== X-Received: by 10.202.78.2 with SMTP id c2mr40043204oib.71.1451502303343; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (67-60-185-108.cpe.cableone.net. [67.60.185.108]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k1sm3201590obz.22.2015.12.30.11.05.01 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:05:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (raman@google.com's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2015 08:33:25 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) SXEmacs/22.1.15 (linux) X-BeenThere: sxemacs-devel@lists.sxemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SXEmacs developers' list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sxemacs-devel-bounces@lists.sxemacs.org Original-Sender: "SXEmacs-Devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.sxemacs.devel:3570 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86455 Archived-At: raman writes: ... > This would be nice!> (Excuse the crossposting.) Why? >> So: I want to know how all y'all would feel if I closed git.gnus.org and >> started bringing the Gnus code base in the Emacs trunk up to modern >> Emacs standards. That would mean removing basically all compat code. These are three different issues, right? Not including new compat code is one thing, but why remove what is already there? How is the Gnus code base not up to modern standards? Why would bring it up to snuff require removing compat code? And these two issues can be dealt with regardless of where the Gnus development occurs; moving it to the Emacs trunk means only people running git Emacs can use/work on the latest Gnus.