From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/85934 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: storing messages into an mbox file Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 10:46:49 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87egmfmw06.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> References: <87r3r45b4c.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <87y4lc10lt.fsf@igel.home> <878uda689b.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <87fv7iofuz.fsf@igel.home> <87zj5q4jxn.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <877fsu78k8.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq0olwl9.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <87h9rskhio.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87pp6cj854.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <87y4kz5sqb.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87egmpq00q.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <877fsgzjvn.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mngnsw4.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <87mw18i1xe.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431855772 2889 80.91.229.3 (17 May 2015 09:42:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 09:42:52 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M34170@lists.math.uh.edu Sun May 17 11:42:39 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ytv5i-0008WF-Qb for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 11:42:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ytv4q-0006Sg-Np; Sun, 17 May 2015 04:41:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ytv4o-0006Ru-Hv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 17 May 2015 04:41:42 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ytv4k-0003Hf-GZ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 17 May 2015 04:41:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([81.169.146.219]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ytv4i-0006WP-AA for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 11:41:36 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1431855695; l=1509; s=domk; d=yagibdah.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Date: In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From; bh=Iny+Phdx0ol4sqaaf+ipFkSFjr5vOdUuAY3k6j2viOA=; b=WPmGolaC+R1trLYCzzIC6iEVDQV0SJnsS6N4w9XjM9/JTsSwgp+G06aVMY93P4LAWt8 kQRCnyzlJ5bk7vU9KA2Exgk413N0jaLe+C56wGzURpwDKKgwFAs9pOHQOPigps3kfo6WH L9+2Bu2uaW4z+PrdYrSYdCRtRGSWufTxkug= X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xHcw0u9bPwwMFwe5A1Mf1jo8+wbUeX1fjiA= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Original-Received: from jarl.yagibdah.de (ip-185-55-75-245.muenet.net [185.55.75.245]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 37.5 AUTH) with ESMTPSA id n06709r4H9fZc3j (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate) for ; Sun, 17 May 2015 11:41:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from br-dmz-ip.yagibdah.de ([192.168.1.1] helo=heimdali.yagibdah.de) by jarl.yagibdah.de with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ytv4h-00050p-3o for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 11:41:35 +0200 Original-Received: from lee by heimdali.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ytv4h-0005K5-1s for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 11:41:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mw18i1xe.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> ("Adam \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Sj\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=C3\=B8gren\=22's\?\= message of "Wed, 13 May 2015 23:48:45 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85934 Archived-At: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj=C3=B8gren) writes: > lee writes: > >> I'm finding this mailing list not very helpful. > > Sometimes you get what you put in. > >> Now I can't even find out where the mails are stored, how to delete >> obsolete groups and how to make sure that the data gnus uses is clean. >> These are very simple and basic questions, with no answers to them. > > If they are really simple and basic, how come you don't answer them? If I knew the answers or could find them, I wouldn't need to ask. > If I knew the answers, or if I cared enough to investigate and happened > to find the answer, I would tell you. I think that goes for everybody her= e. Yes, and I assume that the problem is that nobody knows. So every now and then, there is a question and you can already expect that nobody knows the answer to it. At some point, what else can you do but switch to another software that provides the functionality you need. > But frankly, I personally don't feel like going the extra mile to help > someone who apparantly thinks "threatening" to drop Gnus is a good way > to ask for help. I'm not threatening, it's merely the way it is. When you cannot figure out anymore where your software stores your data, there is no other option than not to use that software anymore and to migrate the data you can still find. --=20 Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.