From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83298 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Outlook-style quoting for Gnus Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 15:02:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87ehccn1j4.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1370700241 8040 80.91.229.3 (8 Jun 2013 14:04:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 14:04:01 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31564@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Jun 08 16:04:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UlJkL-0005yo-4R for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:03:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UlJjT-0000FS-Gf; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 09:03:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UlJjQ-0000FB-OR for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 09:03:00 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UlJjL-0007bS-Pt for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 09:03:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-db9lp0251.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com ([213.199.154.251] helo=db9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UlJjI-0007Na-DK for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:02:52 +0200 Original-Received: from mail95-db9-R.bigfish.com (10.174.16.247) by DB9EHSOBE025.bigfish.com (10.174.14.88) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 14:02:45 +0000 Original-Received: from mail95-db9 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail95-db9-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894DD3000D4 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 14:02:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.250.229;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:AMSPRD0111HT004.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: PS-1(zzbb2dIc89bh146fIzz1f42h1ee6h1de0h1d18h1fdah1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6hzz8275bhz2dh2a8h668h839h8e2h8e3h93fhd24he5bhf0ah1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh162dh1631h16a6h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h19ceh1ad9h1b0ah1d0ch1d2eh1d3ah1d3fh1de2h1dfeh1dffh1e1dhbe9i1155h) Original-Received: from mail95-db9 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail95-db9 (MessageSwitch) id 1370700163101989_28528; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from DB9EHSMHS031.bigfish.com (unknown [10.174.16.248]) by mail95-db9.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144FC60049 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from AMSPRD0111HT004.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com (157.56.250.229) by DB9EHSMHS031.bigfish.com (10.174.14.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 14:02:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost (2.29.21.79) by pod51002.outlook.com (10.242.75.165) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.311.1; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 14:02:42 +0000 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: ("Elias =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=A5rtenson=22's?= message of "Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:14:07 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Originating-IP: [2.29.21.79] X-UCLLIVE-SCLRULE: HASRUN X-OriginatorOrg: ucl.ac.uk X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83298 Archived-At: Elias M=C3=A5rtenson writes: [...] > At work I suffer from a problem that I suppose is not unique in the > world: Being in an organisation that exclusively uses Outlook. For [...] > I tried using Gnus, but I realised quickly that the everybody expects > the replies to conform to the (yes, quite horrible) citation style of > Outlook. This means that emails are HTML, and that the entire email > chain prior is included in each mail. This includes preserved > formatting and images. I also realised that Gnus had no way to provide > this. I guess I have taken the approach that if I have to put up with emails from Outlook users that are backwards, ill-formatted and full of unnecessary information, they can put up with my properly formatted, properly ordered (Q -> A, not A <- Q) and bereft of cruft emails! But that's probably because I'm a stubborn ****. :-) When I do think it would be appropriate to send an HTML formatted email (every now and again but luckily not very often), I use org-mime-htmlize which does a really nice job of creating a multipart message. This doesn't address quoting of emails etc. of course. Anyway, good luck with your solution. If it works for you, and makes your colleagues happy, then soldier on! It's a testament to gnus that you could actually develop a solution that works for you. If only Outlook etc. were that flexible. --=20 : Eric S Fraga, GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D : in Emacs 24.3.50.1 + Ma Gnus v0.8 + evil 1.0-dev : BBDB version 3.02 ($Date: 2013/05/15 13:17:58 $)