From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80245 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: smtp crap Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 09:10:20 -0500 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87ehyn7ewj.fsf@newsguy.com> References: <8739f4kzp3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ipo0p1bc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <58C87CB9F44943A7BBE78F2D6B62A850@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318083059 20314 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2011 14:10:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 08 16:10:56 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXc7-0002TU-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:10:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51743 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXc6-0004gj-W4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:10:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51899) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXc4-0004ge-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:10:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXc3-0003tU-CK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:54533) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXc3-0003tQ-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:10:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCXbz-0002Pg-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:10:47 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-215-179-64.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([98.215.179.64]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:10:47 +0200 Original-Received: from reader by c-98-215-179-64.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:10:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-179-64.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3ZOoNVGa+fI/X2DfduNLRUZeAFM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144744 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80245 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: [...] > Even if it works flawlessly, this "feature" should _not_ be the default. > > In particular, it is ridiculous that a user trying to send a simple bug report > with `emacs -Q' has to run through the extra hurdle of this inane, possibly > confusing, and error-prone dialog ("yes"; edit the `From' line; "n"). I cannot > believe this silliness has gone on this long already. [...] I agree but wanted to tell you that I too was seeing that problem for a time. I cannot recall now what I did to stop it, or maybe it just went away on an update of nognus. And I'm not finding anything in .gnus, .emacs or site-start.el regarding smtp or send. Sorry I cannot help but at least you know there is some kind of fix. ------- --------- ---=--- --------- -------- OOOPS back that `can't help' part up a minitue I checked .emacs-custom on `send' and think I've found the fix maybe: (custom-set-faces (custom-set-variables '(send-mail-function (quote sendmail-send-it)))) Must have done that in customize but I agree with you that I shouldn't have had too. Why change a default that has worked well for must of us for so long. Maybe its a reflection of where the majority of the emacs user base is.