* Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
@ 2011-09-08 9:29 G Philip
2011-09-08 16:54 ` Adam Sjøgren
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From: G Philip @ 2011-09-08 9:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Hi,
I am a new Gnus user. I have set up Gnus to work with Gmail using
offlineimap. Whenever I try to compose a message (or reply to a
message), I get the following problems:
1. The "Fcc:" field is populated with a non-existant directory, and I am
prompted whether I want to create this maildir. Since I don't want to
save a local copy of the sent message (because Gmail SMTP and IMAP will
get it for me anyway), I have to always say "no" before proceeding. This
is a nuisance when it happens every time.
2. The "From:" field is populated by a junk email id, constructed from
my username on the local machine and the local machine's hostname. I
have to edit this field also every time so that it is my proper email
address.
Since I use a couple of email addresses with my gmail account,
I have tried the following in my .gnus file to get this field to use the
"To:" address of the email to which I am replying:
;; Reply using the same address as to which the original was addressed.
(setq message-alternative-emails
(regexp-opt '("myfirstaddress@gmail.com" "myotheraddress@gmail.com")))
;; (setq gnus-posting-styles
'(((header "to" "myfirstaddress@gmail.com")
(address "myfirstaddress@gmail.com"))
((header "to" "myotheraddress@gmail.com")
(address "myotheraddress@gmail.com"))))
But neither of these works.
Could you help me with these?
Thanks and regards,
Philip
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* Re: Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
2011-09-08 9:29 Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems G Philip
@ 2011-09-08 16:54 ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-09-08 18:56 ` gphilip
2013-05-05 21:44 ` Nat Makarevitch
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-09-08 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 14:59:36 +0530, G wrote:
> 1. The "Fcc:" field is populated with a non-existant directory, and I am
> prompted whether I want to create this maildir.
What have you done to get an Fcc: field? I don't think you get one by
default? (You probably get a Gcc: field for archiving sent messages,
though).
> 2. The "From:" field is populated by a junk email id, constructed from
> my username on the local machine and the local machine's hostname. I
> have to edit this field also every time so that it is my proper email
> address.
Does it help to set the variables user-full-name and user-mail-address?
> ;; (setq gnus-posting-styles
> '(((header "to" "myfirstaddress@gmail.com")
> (address "myfirstaddress@gmail.com"))
I think you've got a level of parens too many there? (Comparing to the
example in the Posting Styles node in the manual¹)
Best regards,
Adam
¹ http://gnus.org/manual/gnus_154.html#SEC154
--
"What do you feel Adam Sjøgren
When you let go of the wheel" asjo@koldfront.dk
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* Re: Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
2011-09-08 16:54 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2011-09-08 18:56 ` gphilip
2011-09-08 19:07 ` Adam Sjøgren
2013-05-05 21:44 ` Nat Makarevitch
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: gphilip @ 2011-09-08 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric, Slackrat, Adam,
Thanks to you all for your replies. The "From:" field problem has been
solved (see the solution below), but the "Fcc:" field is stubborn and
I have given in to its demand.
asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 14:59:36 +0530, G wrote:
>
>> 1. The "Fcc:" field is populated with a non-existant directory, and I am
>> prompted whether I want to create this maildir.
>
> What have you done to get an Fcc: field? I don't think you get one by
> default? (You probably get a Gcc: field for archiving sent messages,
> though).
The sad thing is that I do not know :( . I finally caved in and said
"yes" to the question "Create the maildir?", because I wanted to send
mail using Gnus. Now a copy of each mail I send using Gnus is written to
this new maildir 'sent' folder.
>
>> 2. The "From:" field is populated by a junk email id, constructed from
>> my username on the local machine and the local machine's hostname. I
>> have to edit this field also every time so that it is my proper email
>> address.
>
> Does it help to set the variables user-full-name and user-mail-address?
>
It helped to set these, but only as a static measure; these wouldn't
change depending on which mail I am replying to.
>> ;; (setq gnus-posting-styles
>> '(((header "to" "myfirstaddress@gmail.com")
>> (address "myfirstaddress@gmail.com"))
>
> I think you've got a level of parens too many there? (Comparing to the
> example in the Posting Styles node in the manual)
No, the parens are OK here.
After a bit of digging around the manuals and the source code of
gnus/message.el, I tried a hunch, and it worked! Here is what works:
(setq gnus-posting-styles
'(((header "to" "myfirstaddress@gmail.com")
(From "myfirstaddress@gmail.com"))
((header "to" "myotheraddress@gmail.com")
(From "myotheraddress@gmail.com"))))
That is, specifying "From" instead of "address" does the trick.
Thanks once again for your help.
Regards,
Philip
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* Re: Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
2011-09-08 18:56 ` gphilip
@ 2011-09-08 19:07 ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-09-08 21:04 ` Richard Riley
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-09-08 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:26:54 +0530, gphilip@india.com wrote:
> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 14:59:36 +0530, G wrote:
>>> 1. The "Fcc:" field is populated with a non-existant directory, and I am
>>> prompted whether I want to create this maildir.
>> What have you done to get an Fcc: field? I don't think you get one by
>> default? (You probably get a Gcc: field for archiving sent messages,
>> though).
> The sad thing is that I do not know :( .
Maybe you could try showing us what the exact value of the header is,
and what configuration you are using?
It might jig some hard to reach piece of memory...
>> Does it help to set the variables user-full-name and user-mail-address?
> It helped to set these, but only as a static measure; these wouldn't
> change depending on which mail I am replying to.
No, how could they? :-)
>>> ;; (setq gnus-posting-styles
>>> '(((header "to" "myfirstaddress@gmail.com")
>>> (address "myfirstaddress@gmail.com"))
>> I think you've got a level of parens too many there? (Comparing to the
>> example in the Posting Styles node in the manual)
> No, the parens are OK here.
Really? I have one level less than you have in my posting styles; the
manual does as well.
> After a bit of digging around the manuals and the source code of
> gnus/message.el, I tried a hunch, and it worked! Here is what works:
> (setq gnus-posting-styles
> '(((header "to" "myfirstaddress@gmail.com")
> (From "myfirstaddress@gmail.com"))
> ((header "to" "myotheraddress@gmail.com")
> (From "myotheraddress@gmail.com"))))
> That is, specifying "From" instead of "address" does the trick.
I find that hard to believe, but, hey, if it works, it works.
("address" works just fine in my posting styles.)
Best regards,
Adam
--
"What do you feel Adam Sjøgren
When you let go of the wheel" asjo@koldfront.dk
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* Re: Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
2011-09-08 19:07 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2011-09-08 21:04 ` Richard Riley
2011-09-09 7:51 ` G Philip
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riley @ 2011-09-08 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>
>> That is, specifying "From" instead of "address" does the trick.
>
> I find that hard to believe, but, hey, if it works, it works.
>
> ("address" works just fine in my posting styles.)
>
> Best regards,
>
If From is not set I think it constructs it with user-full-name followed
by address. But it being gnus one is never quite sure ;)
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* Re: Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
2011-09-08 21:04 ` Richard Riley
@ 2011-09-09 7:51 ` G Philip
2011-09-10 19:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: G Philip @ 2011-09-09 7:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Riley; +Cc: ding
Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>
>>
>>> That is, specifying "From" instead of "address" does the trick.
>>
>> I find that hard to believe, but, hey, if it works, it works.
>>
>> ("address" works just fine in my posting styles.)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>
> If From is not set I think it constructs it with user-full-name followed
> by address. But it being gnus one is never quite sure ;)
Hmm.. Now I am able to get it working by just using the "address"
option, just like in the manual. I am not sure what makes this work; I
tinkered with a lot of things for this. And I have given up hope on
getting the Fcc: field out in my lifetime :D .
I have the same problem with /forwarding/ mails even now, though :
pressing C-c C-f brings up a window with a junk From: address
(mylocalusername@mylocalmachinename.localdomain). gnus-posting-styles
apparently doesn't affect *forwarded* emails.
Also, when I want to forward an email, it starts with a *prodigious*
amount of headers from the previous email, and the real matter is a
couple of screens down. I have to clear all the headers before I send
the forward. How could I get rid of these?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Regards,
Philip
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* Re: Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
2011-09-09 7:51 ` G Philip
@ 2011-09-10 19:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-09-10 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: G Philip; +Cc: Richard Riley, ding
G Philip <gphilip@india.com> writes:
> I have the same problem with /forwarding/ mails even now, though :
> pressing C-c C-f brings up a window with a junk From: address
> (mylocalusername@mylocalmachinename.localdomain). gnus-posting-styles
> apparently doesn't affect *forwarded* emails.
It should work the same way in any case. Can other people reproduce
this bug?
> Also, when I want to forward an email, it starts with a *prodigious*
> amount of headers from the previous email, and the real matter is a
> couple of screens down. I have to clear all the headers before I send
> the forward. How could I get rid of these?
Edit the ones you don't want.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
2011-09-08 16:54 ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-09-08 18:56 ` gphilip
@ 2013-05-05 21:44 ` Nat Makarevitch
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Nat Makarevitch @ 2013-05-05 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Adam Sjøgren <asjo <at> koldfront.dk> writes:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 14:59:36 +0530, G wrote:
Old one...
> > 1. The "Fcc:" field is populated with a non-existant directory, and I am
> > prompted whether I want to create this maildir.
Same problem here (Debian). It was tied to "notmuch" and (setq notmuch-fcc-
dirs nil) fixed it.
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* Re: Getting rid of the Fcc: field, and other compose problems.
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@ 2011-09-08 10:38 ` Eric S Fraga
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2011-09-08 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
G Philip <gphilip@india.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am a new Gnus user. I have set up Gnus to work with Gmail using
> offlineimap. Whenever I try to compose a message (or reply to a
> message), I get the following problems:
>
> 1. The "Fcc:" field is populated with a non-existant directory, and I am
> prompted whether I want to create this maildir. Since I don't want to
> save a local copy of the sent message (because Gmail SMTP and IMAP will
> get it for me anyway), I have to always say "no" before proceeding. This
> is a nuisance when it happens every time.
I don't get anything in an FCC header field. Maybe check out the values
of the gnus-archive-.* variables? I don't believe the default is to
have anything defined for file copy so you must be setting something
yourself?
> 2. The "From:" field is populated by a junk email id, constructed from
> my username on the local machine and the local machine's hostname. I
> have to edit this field also every time so that it is my proper email
> address.
I use:
(setq gnus-posting-styles '((".*" (address "e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk"))))
much abridged... and also have
(setq user-mail-address "e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk")
I'm not sure if both are needed; probably the first is the most
important for using gnus but much of this is a mystery to me!
HTH,
eric
--
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 + No Gnus v0.18
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