From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78259 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leonidas Tsampros Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: making sendmail call to msmtp asynchronous? Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:22:26 +0300 Message-ID: <87ei5o8lcd.fsf@bifteki.lan> References: <87k4ft9es7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8739m5juqt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <20110330093608.GA22794@apollo.emma.line.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301513013 18003 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2011 19:23:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:23:33 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26568@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 30 21:23:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50zF-0001Ih-Jm for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:23:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50yX-0004K8-0v; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:22:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50yU-0004Js-Nd for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:22:38 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50yS-0006kj-7W for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:22:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ww0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50yR-00018h-5d for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:22:35 +0200 Original-Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so1340919wwi.5 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:from:to:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=3Qj++DiTl+UOOJqq7UlI7s+CutwxYDCJPQNUc9aCYu4=; b=rZg8csFK6YLFeFD/3Y44o5PuZ+4Xf7x0TCB0TC35393J+LXd76YJhFQVogIcON3QXr DyHoe2lv0V7iR0b8vWtvVy0WA66oDscADqPTiLyji2g9+ujQAIO+/fYxywysrCPlrcmW M/JzAFrgY+z949AItOFvJUDWEvsGtt8jqWZZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=hvaIwHQz0D7TgOF7w1Zzb2xtdq3wdzfUL+nlUg3XL0Gmabp6pFJxQihLczVfchVDs9 x3Yws0hlQY+0aSnVp9AgE5TqwTZWsqXu9kgF7hVhjNdM+br5/8Oy0sLt7h3tlockMTz7 cAhm8jRP2X+gpzelbDFz4pxDLrSBoJUbOf5p4= Original-Received: by 10.216.242.134 with SMTP id i6mr1146892wer.81.1301512949533; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bifteki.lan (178.128.149.52.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [178.128.149.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b20sm223978wbb.67.2011.03.30.12.22.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ltsampros-ferrari-one-200 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bifteki.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C6564A27D for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:22:26 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: <20110330093608.GA22794@apollo.emma.line.org> (Matthias Andree's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:36:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78259 Archived-At: Matthias Andree writes: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:38:46AM +0200, Richard Riley wrote: >> Not without pain. Of course. Exim4 is up there with the worst when it >> comes to "simple tweaks" and enabling exim4 for multiple smarthosts >> proved impossible (for me) give or take despite some old configs out >> there in google land for exim1-3 but not 4. Why not use exim4s smtp send >> facility? Its a pain if you travel : here I sit on holiday and smtp >> ports for outgoing are blocked by the ISP and/or the hotel router. Gah! > > While I could offer you sample configs from my Cygwin installation, I've > found out the hard way (this time on FreeBSD) that Exim4 has a very > awkward lock-destination-sites behaviour that requires major manual > interventions to purge the retry/site database to get mails unstuck, > thus I decided I'm not going to install any more of that. > > While Postfix is a bit more of an effort to configure (enable > sender-based authentication, enable sender-based relay, enable smtp (not > smtpd)-side tls, enable smtp-side sasl, permit plaintext authentication > on secure tls channels, set up all the maps, I find it's more > transparent and has less magic special casing underneath that confuses > the heck out of myself. Hi guys, having tried to do the above, I eventually ended up using smtp.gmail.com as my only postfix smarthost with smtp-side sasl, relaying from there all of my sender addresses. (There are some buttons for this procedure on the gmail settings). Also, I ended up using this setup too http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MultipleSMTPAccounts since I need to use other smtp servers occassionally too. Ping me offlist if you want sample postfix config, but I think it's dead easy to do. The only + of my suggestions is that it's the simplest outgoing email setup I could think of. I'm using this setup for the last 6 months and I'm pretty happy. Best Regards, Leonidas Tsampros