From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75020 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:40:59 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87ei9jyrg4.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87oc8ptxks.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87k4jdtxgx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292427926 15091 80.91.229.12 (15 Dec 2010 15:45:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:45:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23376@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Dec 15 16:45:22 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PStXc-0007an-Gh for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:45:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PStXT-0002IV-Tp; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:45:11 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PStXS-0002IL-QG for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:45:10 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PStXO-0007mh-LE for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:45:10 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PStXN-0002iC-UH for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:45:05 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PStXL-0007On-TY for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:45:03 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:45:03 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:45:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:miZgV6amJUQ7GdlMRx5kvBHQZ8I= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75020 Archived-At: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:11:06 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> I've now made netrc.el cache in-memory the contents of the LMI> ~/.authinfo.gpg file. It uses state-of-the-art rot13+base64 encryption LMI> to make it impossible for root to look at /dev/kmem to find out what the LMI> passwords really are. Oh, but what if the user modifies the file, do you refresh? I really don't like my secrets in memory outside of the EPA-managed buffer. So I'm against this change even if it seems to be more convenient. Better to let EPA cache the results, if it can, or use a non-encrypted file if you don't like it. So maybe auth-source.el should, the first time it's started, ask "hey, do you want a EPA-GPG-encrypted file, or are you happy with storing all your secrets in plain sight?" instead of defaulting to EPA as it does now. But regardless of all that the data should not be cached in memory. Ted