From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68373 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap and sticky cache Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:46:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87eiwmgi3p.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <87wsaezl72.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1237967269 4002 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2009 07:47:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:47:49 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16811@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 25 08:49:07 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LmNrB-0006R4-3S for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:49:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmNp3-0002mj-0t; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:46:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmNp0-0002mR-18 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:46:46 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LmNot-0005w9-8Y for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:46:45 -0500 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LmNpG-0005SN-00 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:47:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD05789B009 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:46:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31241-09 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:46:35 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender vrfy tassilo@member.fsf.org Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (dhcp33.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.71.33]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B7C789B399 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:46:34 +0100 (CET) Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (David Abrahams's message of "Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:33:45 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68373 Archived-At: David Abrahams writes: Hi David, >>> Old articles that have since been deleted through other clients >>> still show up in the summary (bad) but sometimes "turn black" (show >>> up as deleted) when I try to read them (also bad). The latest >>> problem is that I've added 'Message-ID to gnus-extra-headers, but >>> `/-x Message-IDxxxxx' turns up nothing, even though I have a >>> message containing xxxxx in its Message-ID header. I've had this >>> sort of problem for years! >> >> Do you use the agent for you imap server? > > Yup. But even if I turn the agent off I still see this problem. Hm, that wasn't the case for me. I guess that's because somewhere there're still cached references to phantom articles... Maybe deleting ~/News/agent/nnimap/ helps, although that shouldn't be used with disabled agent anyway. Or maybe some entries in ~/.newsrc.eld? >> This problem (phantom articles, duplicates and such things) also bit >> me with my agentized imap account whenever I've used the web >> interface. Since then I don't use the agent for imap, but instead >> use a local dovecot imap server that I sync with my imap accounts >> using offlineIMAP. This setup has proven to be very nice. It's very >> quick since all mail is local and all changes are propagated back and >> forth by offlineIMAP. > > I guess that's where I'm headed next. Every laptop becomes a server > in the end... :( Yes, but at least it has some added value, e.g. access to your mail gets much faster. And dovecot is very lightweight and quite easy to configure. Feel free to drop me a mail for my sample setup. Bye, Tassilo